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The Truth About Pet Bans

Posted by Donna Fernstrom at 2/6/2012 11:17:57 AM







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Sam Fredericks,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 11:27:43 AM  

Nice!



Leah Gray,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 11:27:46 AM  

I posted this on my facebook, it's so true sadly :(



Tiki108,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 12:44:32 PM  

Love it!  So true, if they come after any animals I will say something.  I don't think every animal should be sold in a pet store, but I think if you have the knowledge, time, and money then you should be allowed to have them.  I'm not against licensing as long as it's reasonable.  I have a license to breed and sell native species and they do inspections of my animals and I'm fine with that.


Honestly I think that if you want a cat or dog or any animal you should have to have a license, inspections and microchipping (I know certain animals can't be microchipped, so those would be the acception).  See how happy the cat and dog people are when they do this, but honestly as they keep saying it's not a right it's a privilege, so you don't have the right to have any animal.


Think about this, there are 5,000-10,000 Feral Burmese Pythons in FL and 6.3-9.6 million Feral Cats, yet we kill the Burmese and Trap Neuter and Release the Cats?  Anyone else see the problem here?



Andrew Krueger,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 12:59:19 PM  

no burm neuter plan?  jokes aside, trap neuter works because we cant remove them fast enougth.  this has a 1 generation and done type of plan, probably will not work 100% but has shown merit.  feral burms need to be removed one way or another, it is sad to say but true.  worst part is if we are right, and we are of course, and burms don't spread and are controlled moron florida politicians will just say the ban worked.



Tiki108,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 1:36:18 PM  

This is going to sound awful, but I think it would be cheaper to just humanely euthanize them.  With that study about the reduction in small mammals, 1 doing a study by driving around and counting roadkill isn't that reliable, 2 no one considers cats could play a role?


I'm sorry, but in time TNR might work, but cats can live for a long time and during that time they continue to kill wildlife and harm the environment.


Check out this study


What I find funny is we always hear about us darn irresponsible reptile owners letting our herps go, but no one is worried about all the irresponsible cat owners that just let their cats go?  There was another study that I read and a lot of people got upset about it because even though it was peer-review, they felt it was done properly (sound familar??)  I'll try to find the link to that one as well.



Donna Fernstrom,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 2:23:05 PM  

It's not awful, it's simply reality.  Domestic cats, contrary to what some animal rescue folks would have people believe, do JUST FINE 'in the wild'.  They reproduce at a faster rate than they die, and for any animal species, that's called success.  I've always thought that trap and neuter programs were a ridiculous solution...those feral cats continue to destroy wildlife for their lifetime.  There was a local program here that did do the right thing...when their feral colony was threatened by development, they captured the cats and then adopted them out to farmers--so the ferals became barn cats, used for rodent control. 


Too many cat owners think it's just fine to allow their cats to roam outside every day.  Those aren't even feral cats, and they still manage to decimate the native song bird and native rodent populations.  If people are going to commonly keep a TRUE invasive species like house cats, they need to start understanding what is required to keep that species in check.



Tiki108,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 3:02:47 PM  

Thank you!  I'm really sick of hearing, but we can't just kill them, well you kill 25,000 a day in shelters across the country that are perfectly healthy.  My Mom's ex had barn cats, but they weren't fixed, but my Mom went on a mission to fix all of them and a couple were already pregnant so I took 2 of the kittens and we made sure we found good homes for the rest.  I know 5 went to a barn, but they all basically live in a huge heated tack room and she got them all fixed.  While the barn cats can cause damage to wildlife, it's much better than them running free and possibly causing more damage to native wildlife.



Emily Russom,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 3:44:36 PM  

Wow Tiki - really - CATS?  They didn't pick on cats first?!  That was done back in 2003!  /facepalm.


Thanks for the study though - it is now bookmarked in my EVERY GROWING python help folder.



Michael Caine,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 4:06:03 PM  

WOW that makes a very sad but true statement



Tiki108,
Posted At: 2/6/2012 5:03:35 PM  

I got tons more, I'll message you with a bunch of links, you probably already have some, but I'm working on 2 youtube videos with my reasons why cats and dogs should be banned.  I'm not going to send it to any of the HSUS nuts, but put it on here for you all as my sarcasitic joke, lol.  I think what people don't realize is for all the reasons to ban exotics, "domestic" animals are 10x worse, and the animal rights groups will bring that up eventually.  I mean honestly I wouldn't be that sad if they made spay and neuter mandatory unless have a license to breed cats and dogs.  Yes idiots will still leak through, but imagine how quickly there will be a decline in the shelters.


When you talk to the HSUS people they have the same response, "we're not talking about cats and dogs."  Well guess what, in the videos I am making, I am and I'm not even bringing up exotics.  I mean honestly do they hear themselves sometimes?  It's pretty funny to read their conversation, if you do go on Wayne's facebook or HSUS's, I'm Kaiya Donaldson, they blocked my other facebook cause I didn't start out very calm like I should have, lol.


  
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