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Q: Troubles with an anorexic Savanna Monitor
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Repti_Gal

In Relation To:

Tonka [3]
Hello all 

We have a 6 month old savannah monitor ... he has refused to eat for the last 2 weeks ... 


How long/large is it? 5 inches tops 

What size tank is he in? 10 Gal tall 

What substrate (ground covering) are you using? mulch

What do you use to heat the tank? Heat lamp ... and a UVB bulb ... (at the bottom, side of the tank ... cause thats where he likes it)

What are the temperatures (basking spot and cool side) in the tank? 90-95 on the warm side 

What do you use to measure the temperatures? probe

Do you use a UV bulb? Sun 100W sunglo basking light 

If so, which kind (brand/name)and how old is it? 2 month

What do you feed your reptile (please be specific)? Waxies, Cricket, and we try to feed him fuzzy mice ... but all he does is make friends with them and lets them live in his pad.

How often? every other day

Do you use supplements? Fluckers D3 calcum

If so, which ones and how often? all the time

Do you bath or mist your Reptile?mist 2-3 times a day ... bath every other night 

Is your Reptile housed alone or with another Reptile? Alone

I have also tried to feed him some raw eggs ... and boild ... the only thing that ate them was the darn mouse!

any help would be great!
Repti-Gal

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Points: 250
Topics: Feeding
Tags: Feeding, Monitor, Sav, Savannah, Trouble
Species: Lizards > Monitors > Varanus exanthematicus
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Member Comment 9/22/2008 5:12:51 PM

FyreFocks
Constapation would be my first guess. When was the last time he defacated?
 
Author Comment 9/22/2008 7:14:10 PM

Repti_Gal
he poopied a few days after his last mouser ... :/ hasn't eat'n anything since
 
Accepted Answer 9/22/2008 9:15:18 PM

FyreFocks
Well maybe its his enviroment. I wouldnt mist him nearly as often or bath him that much. He could just be unhappy. It could also be the supplements you use. If you use it too often then it builds up inside and causes problems. You may want to cut back on that. Has he lost weight in the 2 weeks that he hasnt eaten?
 
Member Comment 9/22/2008 11:50:31 PM

Urban Squamata
Repti-Girl.. I have some questions and comments:

My first suggestion would be either to get a larger enclosure (min 20 gallon) .  By nature these are predatory animals, a 10 gallon does not give it adequate room to roam.

The wattage of the bulb is too high for this size of enclosure, try a 50 watt and a separate UVB bulb 10.0.  How long is the bulb on for .. are you on a 12/12 cycle?

You mention mulch, what type is it.. if it is cypress?

I am assuming he is WC; if so has he been treated.

Are there hides in the enclosure? 

Another thing is you can try scenting the mouse (pinky for now) with tuna juice, if the animal does not eat within 10-15 minutes, remove the mouse to alleviate the stress on the animals.
 
Author Comment 9/23/2008 12:03:53 AM

Repti_Gal
well geeze the mouse ain't stressing him out ,,, they are buddies that sleep together :/ 

My first suggestion would be either to get a larger enclosure (min 20 gallon) .  By nature these are predatory animals, a 10 gallon does not give it adequate room to roam.

"he is only in that one till we can get a bigger one."

The wattage of the bulb is too high for this size of enclosure, try a 50 watt and a separate UVB bulb 10.0.  How long is the bulb on for .. are you on a 12/12 cycle?

"He mostly gets natural sun light through the back door in the summer and then a uvb bulb that i had to move down beside his cage ... "

You mention mulch, what type is it.. if it is cypress?

"No it is not cypress it was suggested to us to use that from Scary Guys Exotics"

I am assuming he is WC; if so has he been treated.

"No"

Are there hides in the enclosure?  

"yes several"

Another thing is you can try scenting the mouse (pinky for now) with tuna juice, if the animal does not eat within 10-15 minutes, remove the mouse to alleviate the stress on the animals.
 
Member Comment 9/23/2008 4:59:08 AM

Jeffriey
Just to add or confirm everyones comments above. First thing get the frikin mouse out of the cage LOL. Trust me on this one. It could very well be why he isnt eating. Also to confirm this is definitely a captive bred. Nobody brings WC Savannahs into Canada anymore and based on where you bought him from. Too many CBB here. Secondly I think he's still too small to want to start on fuzzies. Small pinkies maybe occasionally. Tuna and sardine scenting works for alot of animals especially neonate snakes so remember that trick. Keep him on insects, crickets as long as you can. Natural diet in the wild when they are that small. Meal worms hmm occasionally, waxies ok but not too much (they will get obese and lazy just on this) and no cat or dog food. There are some canned monitor foods out there but I'm not sure if we can get them around here. I haven't seen any but I will ask Grant if he carries it and distributes it where you live. If not maybe he can bring some in. Keep trying the boiled egg once his friend is out of the cage, maybe add some ground turkey meat.. 10 gallon might look fine for his size and make him feel secure but it wont get you the ambient temps you want and the room to run around. Exercise helps when they chase crickets down. Yes the 100w is too large for that tank. I should have asked the wattage when you mentioned moving the light before. You'll cook him with that. Might be why he likes the lamp at the bottom side. Too hot directly from the top and dissipating the heat a bit when you move it down to the side to the right temps. Adjust the wattage or add a dimmer on it to make the basking spot at around100 degrees and the ambient from 90-95 at the high end to 70-75 at the low end. Night time can drop to room temps. A 20 -30 gal can give you more room to create this and allow him to go where he feels like it. 30 gal might be better if you don't want to buy a bigger tank in a few months if you go with a 20. Keep all the hides. You dont need to bath him but mine does like to soak occasionally in his water bowl. Misting occasionally is ok. Keep the humidity at a moderate level but not completely dry. Some adult Savannahs will fast during the dry season in the wild. Something tells me you have a screen on top. You have to look at their African natural habitat if thats what you want to try and recreate. I think I know the substrate you're using. It's the small chunky redish brown stuff right? Some of the chunks may be too small. You don't want him to swallow with his food. Go with a larger bark, or bigger pieces of cyprus mulch and maybe a lower level of 2-3 inches of calci-sand to burrow in. You should be able to pick that up in most pet shops now. Hmm hope this is enough for now. Let us know how he does.
 
Author Comment 9/24/2008 7:55:26 AM

Repti_Gal
wow that is a LOT of info ... the heat lamp is on top ... the uvb bulb is on the bottom ... i will try some more waxies since that is what he liked to eat ...
 
Member Comment 9/26/2008 4:00:37 AM

GarbrechtRE
The UVB is on the bottom? EXPLAIN please.
 
Author Comment 10/6/2008 3:25:30 PM

Repti_Gal
he seems to prefer it there ... and found that out by accident .. :P his uvb strip light is down the back of the tank ... he comes out more often now too
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