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Posted by Sonja K. at 4/26/2013 5:00:50 PM

First of all, I have to say, I LOVE this species! While I have yet to experience growing ones up, the adults I have had the pleasure of interacting with have been so wonderful!

Two of the animals I lost in the heat up were my pair of Angolans - the female was gravid, due to lay her eggs in ~ 2 weeks.

There were two projects that I knew I felt the strongest about / needed to get back more on the sooner side than later - the Olive Pythons and the Angolans.

I acquired another pair in 2011.

I paired Ann and Andy last fall on October 1st.

One of the copulations I witnessed occured within the first week.

On March 4th, I noted some significant swelling, and thought she might be ovulating.


March 31st, Ann had her Post Ovulation Shed (POS). With eggs typically coming in 24-34 days, that brought her lay date to be somewhere between April 23rd and May 3rd.

On April 10th, I went to check on her and my heart sank... there was a slug in her cage. It was only day 11 from her POS and all I could think was, No. No, Ann. Please don't slug out, please!

Thankfully, the hours passed, and then the days, and no more presented.

On April 20th, it was obvious the eggs had moved down closer to the vent. It was day 21.

I went to check on her after work this past Tuesday, (April 24th), day 25, and to my delight, found an egg... but Ann was not with the egg. It was resting on the cool side, and Ann was resting on the heat on the other side of the cage. This concerned me. Did it mean the egg wasn't viable? I removed that one egg and candeled it. It has discolored ends, but I was happy to find it has veins, so I am hopeful. I set it up for incubation and hoped / waited for more... At one point, she began maneuvering the hide that she hadn't paid attention to in weeks, over to the warm side and then crawled into it - or as much of her as would fit. Feeling she was possibly feeling threatened / insecure for the trying to hide, I tossed a sheet of opened up newspaper in the cage to provide more cover, shut the lights off and left the building.

I checked for progress a few hours later, but only found her hiding still.

The next morning came. She was still within the hide, but when I lifted it, I was able to see an egg. Not having the time at that point, and for not knowing if she was done or not with her still being in a looser coil, I repositioned the hide over her and went back to the house.

After work, I found her in a nice beehive - still under the hide.

She voiced her displeasure for me getting close by huffing and puffing and repositioning herself. As she did, I caught my first glance of something I was going to find within her coils.

The look she was giving me and sounds she was producing were ones that I had never seen or heard come from my sweet girl... she had entered the realm of motherhood, and that calls for whatever it takes to protect your little ones.

Knowing that there was at least one slug and one good egg within the clutch she was wrapped around, I slowly lifted her off, hoping for the rest to be good eggs. I didn't find that, though.

In total... taking into count the one slug laid early on, the clutch consisted of 2 eggs and 5 slugs for this first time mom and dad.

Not stellar, but looking at the sunny side (up) there are two... and that is something... two wonderful somethings! I can't help but be grateful for what I have. Just 23 months ago, when I lost so much, I never imagined I would ever be where I am today again... 

The egg on top (#1) is the one laid first... I hope it makes it! The one on the bottom (#2) was the one she wrapped around. 

For fun, I took pics of how they candeled...

#1 seems like the veins aren't quite as strong, but cross your fingers with me!

And Egg #2:

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Pope of iHerp and Bread,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 5:06:24 PM  

2 angolans is better than none! Congrats!

George H. Wessel VII,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 5:09:05 PM  


Sonja ,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 5:29:34 PM  

Congratulations!  I know how excited you are about these ones.  All fingers and toes are crossed for the two eggs!

Great photos, too.

Lisa ,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 5:34:40 PM  

If thoughts of hope and best wishes work, I'm sending them your way!  I love Angolans, they are so pretty!  

Shawn Berg,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 5:46:12 PM  

While so many just say, "I have eggs" and a few pics, I absolutely LOVE the stories you provide behind the animal. Wishing the best for you and these two little ones!

Pope of iHerp and Bread,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 5:51:54 PM  

Shawn, those type of blogs are all I have energy for. Don't hate!

Katie ,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 6:19:48 PM  

Congrats sonja! Can't wait to see :)

Niki ,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 6:22:46 PM  

Pope, if George would let you rest every now & then, you might be able to make a blog that rivals Julie's!

Bethany ,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 6:22:51 PM  

Congrats Sonja!! Sorry so many turned out to be slugs, but that means next year will be better! What happened 23 months ago?

Sonja K. ,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 6:44:13 PM  

Thanks everybody!

Bethany... a pet sitter caused a heat up in my reptile building. The result was that I lost ~ 90% of my collection. If you want to read more about it, it's here.

George H. Wessel VII,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 6:51:59 PM  

Get a case of tissues first Bethany.

Bethany ,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 7:01:58 PM  

That made me heartbroken, i don't even know what to say... if there weren't people around me i'd be crying right now. That shouldn't have happened to you Sonja!!

Posted At: 4/26/2013 8:17:16 PM  

Squee!! Hope those two go the distance!!

The Shammernator ,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 8:48:54 PM  

It's wonderful that you are coming along so nicely!!! And heck, two eggs is better than no eggs :)

I am also a month counter. It's been 11 months and I still think about it every, single, day. As the year mark approaches I am finding myself in a rut, distancing myself from everything reptilian some days. And seeing where you are at, with all of your stuff, gives me a lot of strength and kindles my fire! And hell, you lost even more than I did! But look at you now! I am hoping for a few clutches of eggs this year, but they will just be icing on the cake if they happen.

I think that the beaded scales on these guys are really awesome. Do the babies feel that way, or do they "grow into" the beaded scales?

Posted At: 4/26/2013 9:03:36 PM  

Oh Sonja, I am so so sorry :( What a horrific experience.

I am happy to see these eggs for you, I hope they survive and hatch beautiful babies!!

Jeanie Otten,
Posted At: 4/26/2013 10:14:17 PM  

I'm crossing my fingers for you Sonja!  

Abby McDufford,
Posted At: 4/27/2013 9:21:54 AM  

Good luck with those eggs, love the parents! Angolans are so awesome.

Emily Milton,
Posted At: 4/27/2013 9:48:25 AM  

I am crossing my fingers, and my toes for you!  Banana and Ripley are crossing their tails.  Best of luck!!!!!

Posted At: 4/27/2013 6:45:50 PM  

awesome! I'll cross my fingers for you.  She is gorgeous!

Chris McIntosh,
Posted At: 4/27/2013 7:49:56 PM  

Keeping my fingers crossed!

Shannin ,
Posted At: 4/27/2013 11:26:07 PM  

So exciting!  Ann is a beautiful mama!

Lauren ,
Posted At: 4/27/2013 11:31:29 PM  

Good luck, I hope they hatch!

Frank DeLaglio,
Posted At: 4/28/2013 12:34:31 PM  

good luck, great blog post!

Sarah Sears,
Posted At: 4/28/2013 3:32:51 PM  

fingers crossed that these two grow into healthy, adorable little worms : ) Congrats Sonja

Sonja K. ,
Posted At: 5/2/2013 11:12:47 PM  

Little update... Egg #1 had a "window" appear on the 28th. It progressed and today there was the dreaded bluish tinge starting and it began to smell also. I cut it open, and for whatever reason, it went bad, but it had been a fertile egg - there was an embryo. 

So far so good with the other egg... hoping it goes the distance!

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