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Posted by Sonja K. at 6/30/2013 1:28:35 PM

Yesterday brought more babies - BIG Dum babies!

These are Adrian and Jack's babies. Adrian is a smaller Dum. At 9 years old, she is 10 pounds and she stays at that weight I found no matter what feeding schedule she is on.

Jack is a big Dum. As some of you may recall, when he arrived in July of 2011 from a sweet man named Ken that sent him to help me rebuild my collection, he weighed 21 pounds - even though Jack had never been fed any larger than a large rat. He was fed one weekly, though, and with a Dumeril's slow metabolism, it was just too much for him.

With Jack weighing twice as much as Adrian, I did not pair them that first fall. Instead over the first year I had him, I dropped his prey size and lengthened the time between feedings. Jack's weight slowly and steadily dropped. As time to pair him with Adrian drew near, his weight was ~ 17 pounds. He had lost ~ 4 pounds over 16 months. He became more active and now has a neck again. He had reminded me of one of the body builders that look like they have no neck. ; ) Jack is 13 years old.

In the same time frame, I tried increasing the size of Adrian's prey to see if she might put on some size, but after 9 months of trying, she still weighed 10 pounds. The only difference was her defecations were larger.

Jack and Adrian were paired on October 21st, 2012.

Onto yesterday and the babies...

Even though I didn't see any actual babies at first, I knew she must have given birth - especially since I had just replaced the paper in the cage the night before.

I opened the door, and it was as if she was asking, "What are you doing here?"

I noticed one baby in the back corner, and another was peeking out from under the paper - where I could tell they had taken cover. With a hook, I lifted the edge of the paper...

Adrian then gave me a look like, "Not sure if I trust you here..."

There they were! Big, pretty babies!

About this time, Adrian felt the need to check to make sure all was okay with her little ones since I had broke their cover. What a good mama!

After she found that I wasn't a threat, she returned to where she had previously been laying.

Here's the babies first bath. Something to get some goo off, although 2 babies had already shed. Often this happens during the birthing process with Dumeril's.

Drying off:

Some are more a rosy red whle others are more a pastel pink.

The total from this pairing was 8 live, 1 stillborn, and 2 slugs. With Adrian's smaller size, I think this will be a pretty standard sized litter for her.

Her first litter in 2010 consisted of 4 live, 5 stillborns, 0 slugs. The babies were 86 - 87 grams.

This time, though, the babies were significantly larger. They ranged from 95 to 107 grams. Unlike the Sanzinia babies, these guys are very laid back.


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George H. Wessel VII,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 1:36:11 PM  

What a big pile of SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

Abby McDufford,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 2:36:09 PM  

OMG soooo cute! They are beautiful! Congrats!

Sonja K. ,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 2:39:59 PM  

A comment that I got notice of in my email and one that didn't say who posted it (?)  And I see it isn't here... at least not yet.

"Sonja K. strikes again! Dums make such pretty babies--and big! Bet they're not too hard get started on rodents."


Actually, they can be slow to feed because their metabolism is slower and they are of a bigger size. They have enough yolk in their bellies to last them a good while. They are very much ambush hunters and getting them set up to ensure they are able to feel hidden and secure is key. 

Ché Kinnard,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 2:56:37 PM  

If it is not unusual for them to shed during birth and they have enough yolk to last them awhile, when do you offer them their first meal? BTW, Congratulations.

Michael ,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 3:26:16 PM  

Gorgeous !!!

Sonja K. ,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 3:27:26 PM  

Thanks guys!

I will start offering sometime during the week of the 8th and see if they take, and then offer weekly. I only have access to the feeding records of 2 of the 4 from 2010, and those both took their first meal 25 days after birth. 

Callie (and Dave) ,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 3:31:25 PM  

Congrats Sonja!! Those baby Dums are BEAUTIFUL! I didn't know they were so big when they were born! Also I love the one baby with the full :] smiley face on its head!

Posted At: 6/30/2013 4:03:17 PM  

Gorgeous babies. Fat and sassy. Congrats

Rebecca ,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 5:25:40 PM  

Gorgeous babies & a great write up!!  :)

Great that these babies are so much bigger.  They look robust & beautiful!  Congratulations!

Rebecca ,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 5:26:57 PM  

I see lots of smiley faces in there!!  :)

Aecian Wandel,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 6:30:31 PM  

Wow, congratulations! I love Dumeril's! 

Sonja ,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 6:55:58 PM  

They are beautiful!  And, they sure do look HUGE!

Shawn Berg,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 7:31:38 PM  

OMG! Hide my credit cards! Seriously!

Congrats! They are adorable. I LOVE their little faces!

Posted At: 6/30/2013 7:55:08 PM  

AWWW! Big cutie babies! Congrats on all your healthy little ones

Bethany ,
Posted At: 6/30/2013 8:58:48 PM  

Gorgeous!!!!! Your reptile room has been really busy lately, looks like i need to come over and help you out, right?? Right??   The little Dum Dums (and big momma Dum Dum) are soooo cute!

Emily Milton,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 8:41:03 AM  

Congratulations my dear!!!!  They are adorable and precious!!!!

The Shammernator ,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 9:22:24 AM  
OMG. One of them has a :] on its head. THAT IS SO ADORABLE!!!

Lauren ,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 9:32:17 AM  

Aww, they are so cute! You've got a lot of babies coming in! 

Pope of iHerp and Bread,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 12:02:03 PM  

With your breeding skills, boelens really are where you belong.



Shannin ,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 12:02:12 PM  

Oh, I seriously am fighting happy tears!!  I've been waiting for these babies since before conception!!!  I'm not hiding my card.. it's waiting for them to EAT!!  YAY!!!!!!!!

Psycho Dragon,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 12:39:26 PM  

They look amazing. Congrats again and again. I feel with all these boa pic blogs we need an **AFTERBIRTH WARNING** or something. That'll show me to iHerp on my lunch break.

Sonja K. ,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 3:08:09 PM  

Thanks all!

If you look at that smiley face from the other direction, it reminds me of that face Jay Leno puts with his signatiure sometimes.

Bethany, I'd love a helper... and a herping buddy (aka herping ninja).

Shawn - He He He

Nate... didn't we have a deal? You were gonna send me a pair of Boelen's, I'd breed them, keep 2 babies and you get the rest? I'm waiting. I'd LOVE to try!

Shannin! Your happy tears makes me smile! You've been very patient!

Justin - But,  Boa goo is glorious! I didn't think those were bad at all.

Pope of iHerp and Bread,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 3:11:40 PM  

The tessera market crashed last year so they won't be making rich beyond my wildest dreams like I thought. ;)

I suppose I could kidnap a pair from Marc in August. I'd need Tine's help.

Solana ,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 4:09:16 PM  

Much congrats Sonja!  They are simply gorgeous!  (No I don't need another Dumeril', no, no I don't).  

Lauren ,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 8:04:50 PM  

Super congrats, they are gorgeous. Of all the snakes I had to sell when Tara and I split up... I think I miss my Dum the most. Someday....

i have a disease called awesomeness ,
Posted At: 7/1/2013 11:50:33 PM  

sweet.. funny hw dumeril's will have funny patterns on there big female has a penguin on her head

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