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Need Help Identifying Boa

Posted by Frances at 3/9/2010 9:50:18 PM

Hi, I have a boa (Wayne) who was found roaming around in the streets of Bangkok! After loads of TLC, he's a really nice snake. He is obviously not a native to Thailand :-) I'm not sure what sort of boa he is, can any one tell me? He has no moustache and has a very salmon belly, with spots on the back rather than saddles. Here are some pics:

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albinoboastore,	Posted At: 3/9/2010 10:01:20 PM
	Looks like CA Motley.

KennysBoas,	Posted At: 3/9/2010 10:06:28 PM
	i sorta agree with jason and hes belly is pretty!

Mitch Kranz,	Posted At: 3/9/2010 10:15:17 PM
	Not motley because he still has the side medallions. Can't help on the locale, sorry..... But cool find!

Ken ,	Posted At: 3/9/2010 10:15:24 PM
	Looks like a honduran boa to me or somewhere in that area.

albinoboastore,	Posted At: 3/9/2010 10:17:40 PM
	CA Motleys do have the side medallions.

Sonja K. ,	Posted At: 3/9/2010 10:41:03 PM
	My first thought is one of those red belly Nicaraguans. Otherwise, some other form of central american dwarf boa.

Pope of iHerp and Bread,	Posted At: 3/9/2010 11:20:12 PM
	I dont see motley anywhere on that snake.

Sonja K. ,	Posted At: 3/9/2010 11:29:37 PM
	I also see that as being more of a nice circleback. The bellies of my Nics take on varying shade of orange depending on what phase they are in at the time, and it seems that the orange coloration is more intense in the lower ~ 1/3 to 1/2 of the body when it is, too.

wintersreptiles,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 12:24:19 AM
	Kinda looks like my Argentine Boa, but not the sides. It's Brandon on my page, pretty snake.

shellboa,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 12:58:51 AM
	looks like it could be a nic-arg cross. Either way it was obviously trying to escape for some time before it actually did, look at its nose scars...hopefully you can give it a good home

Chris Flanders,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 1:16:57 AM
	I disagree with everyone =) The salmon belly and coloring screams Tarahumara Mountain Boa.

Chris Flanders,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 1:25:12 AM
	Shellboa is right about the face scar. It did have a mustache at some point. If you need a reference pic for a Tarahumara... Click Me!

Ken ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 1:26:11 AM
	Too big, saddles aren't close enough, and the head spear is too light to be tarahumara plus you have any idea the odds she would find one in the streets of Thailand?

shellboa,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 1:33:54 AM
	The head does look a lot lighter...aren't Tara's pretty spendy? I am pretty sure this is one of those intergrade boas that has characteristics of more than one locality and will be very difficult if not impossible to attribute to a specific one. In other words a pretty mutt. Nice to know he has a good personality.

Ken ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 1:37:35 AM
	Yeah I think everyone agrees it's CA something and probably is a mutt of sorts. The OP can probably get a better idea knowing the sorts of boas that are more common in the trade over there.

Chris Flanders,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 1:41:46 AM
	I didn't say it wasn't a cross... and I am guesing... the same odds that you would find one in my house?

Ken ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 2:01:37 AM
	Really the odds you'd find a tarahumara boa on the streets of Thailand and not a more common normal sonoran desert boa mind you are the same as finding one inside the house of a reptile keeper who keeps mostly boas? Man when my friend was in Thailand two years ago asking me to get the paperwork together to import some retics I should have just said pudding no dude hit the markets those streets are crawling with tarahumaras.....but I didn't know you then to tell me that so I'm seriously kicking myself now.

Frances ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 8:03:52 AM
	Hey guys - What can you expect here in Thailand - Thailand is Amazing. I have a reverse pattern albino burmese python, that was just thought as "different" $1,000 says you can have anything happen here! Thanks for the remarks, and please continue to give me some ideas. BTW, he doesnt rub his cage, and that isnt a facial scar. He doesnt have a moustache, and no scars. That's his look! Puzzling to say the least!!!!

Sonja K. ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 10:46:18 AM
	I still think it's a lot like a Nic... it's quite common for them to have a more compact saddle pattern, and quite often are circlebacks. Not all have the moustache, either.

shellboa,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 10:53:39 AM
	Not scars? wow, pics make it so hard to tell sometimes. I would have sworn the tip of his nose was scarred. Well whatever he is, he is handsome.

Shannon ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 12:06:47 PM
	Looks like a Nic to me.

Ken ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 4:45:32 PM
	All of my Nics have the mustache I've seen pictures of a couple that don't but who knows those could be mislabeled. Hondurans do not have the mustache and they do have the full orange belly that's why I said honduran. Only nics I know of that do not have the mustache ore corn islands and they go through color changes which she would have probably mentioned.

Sonja K. ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 6:01:21 PM
	You are correct about the Hondurans, I think that ones from Ecuador can have orange bellies, too, for instance... I guess one of the reasons I'm favoring it being a Nic is because the Hondurans I've seen have always had more of a brown tone to them... At least it seems we all agree on it being a central american dwarf : )

Ken ,	Posted At: 3/10/2010 6:17:26 PM
	Nah the only Honduran I've ever owned was pretty much that dark as an adult. Yeah for sure CA dwarf.

Chris Costa ,	Posted At: 4/29/2010 1:22:52 AM
	looks kinda like a corn island boa.

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