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Breeding African Soft furs
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I currently bred rats and was thinking about breeding african soft furs. I have a couple of customers that have problem eaters so I was gonna start some asf. I herd they are bad about chewing up everything. I currently house my rats in a rack with the plastic concrete mixing tubs.Will they chew thru this. It seems people tend to keep them in glass aquariums dont really want to do this. Please help!!!
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4/16/2010 5:17:48 PM
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albinoboastore
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I have kept asf in plastic lab tubs with no problems, if you are still concerned, provide them something to gnaw on.
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4/16/2010 5:34:29 PM
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wintersreptiles
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Asf are in glass, a friend had them in tubs and lost them from chewing though the tub. Two years of breeding them and thay will chew though critter keppers. I wont risk it in cement tubs. Man are thay MEAN!!! The only thing i use gloves to clean.
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4/16/2010 9:10:59 PM
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Nicky2303
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mine havent breed for me yet i just got them but i keep mine in a normal rat cage
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4/17/2010 12:01:33 AM
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Nitram
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My buddy Jack @ SouthFloridaRodents.com keeps all his stock (Including asf) in wooden racks lined with chicken fence type of meshing and his setup is pretty amazing (granted he has a whole barn to work with). I see him about twice a month and never heard of any problems with rats escaping or chewing through things. It may be the type of wood he uses (maybe 3-4" thick, if i were "eye it measuring") or the chicken wire but like I said his setup is tip top. Good luck with your breeders.
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4/18/2010 11:35:45 AM
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pikey
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i keep them in the plastic concrete tubs too, never had a problem..... when you get them tubs make sure there is not bumps or indents in the corners like there are in some of them (even mice will chew through the corners if they can get their teeth on to it)
i do not reccomend glass tanks because the ASF rats do and will eat the water bottles
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Accepted Answer
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4/19/2010 10:20:13 AM
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ssssinful
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You are correct- ASF's are notorious for chewing. I initially had my ASF's in a 20g long glass enclosure with a screen top. They quickly figured out how to climb up the water bottle and started gnawing at the screening at the top and made an effort to escape. I used glass water bottles, so while they could not chew the water bottle, they did manage to climb the metal holder that hung over the cage.
Another problem with glass caging is that often their lab blocks are placed inside the enclosure with the ASF's. They will gnaw on their lab blocks just for the sake of chewing. It is wasteful and creates a powdery mess at the bottom of the cage. Of course, ASF's like to chew on fingers too. ;)
I try to keep them busy with adding a toilet paper tube into their tub. My tubs are not large enough, but if you choose to keep them in a glass enclosure ASF's love to run on wheels.
Now I keep my ASF's in a small ARS caging system similar to this: http://www.arscaging.com/ars1050.html So far, they have not been able to chew through the tubs or the wire top- and they do bite at it frequently.
Good luck. I enjoy having my ASF's.
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4/19/2010 11:51:52 AM
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shellboa
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I second what Pikey said, we have kept ours in bus tubs (like the concrete only shorter and narrower) and not had chew outs. I've kepts ASF's gerbils and spiney mice in these tubs and while the gerbils managed to thin the corners a little with their constant digging, no rodent has ever chewed out. We have a rack made of wood that best compares to a freedom breeder set up with 1/8 mesh on top to prevent hopper escape. I give the ASF's and gerbils all the empty tp tubes and shredded paper and offer them things like whole corn and whole nuts once in a while. I have had a few "tame" asf's but for the most part they and the spiney's are evil bastards. I only do gerbils now as I just got rid of my last asf's and only have one picky eater left. (yay)
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4/23/2010 12:29:09 PM
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MTDrew
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i house my asfs in glass tanks with glass water bottles and will not go back to tubs for them.
i tried to convert mine to tubs and in 2 days had 2 holes from 2 seperate colonies and 6 escapes and yes i used tubs with no seems or edges they could bite onto .. just food for thought.
they are prolific breeders and average 15 per litter, total time to growout to feed a 1k gram snake is 12-16 weeks, also keep in mind that an adult jumbo asf is 90 grams.
another note, i often use my asfs as starter food for those tricky feeders, a 25 gram asf will get any ball pythons attention and find all but 1 of my snakes will take a f/t after a 25 gram asf, but feeding live asfs is not recommended as they will bite your snake.
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6/27/2010 1:17:38 AM
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vthefamous1v
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like some people already said if they can get thier teeth on it they will chew it i tried plastic for mine and one got away, mine live in glass now
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1/25/2011 10:32:18 AM
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abi21491
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