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4/25/2010 6:47:31 PM
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4/25/2010 6:54:03 PM
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KennysBoas
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thanks is prevent a mite ok to use even though one already has it?
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4/25/2010 7:04:53 PM
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kfethe
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look in walmart in the pharmacy section. there is a product for treatment of lice in humans but it works equally well on mites. it is also far cheaper than pet store mite treatments. it is a small, aerosol bottle and should cost around 5 bucks with the active ingredient being permethrin. the way i use it is to first put the affected animal on newspaper. then take your animals and their cage decorations out of the cage and treat the cage. once the cage has aired out, spray a small amount on the newspaper and put the treated side toward the bottom of the cage. this has worked well for me and the people i learned about it from, and as far as i know it has no ill effects on the animals as long as the cage is aired out well enough. if anyone else knows of this treatment and any side effects it may have then dont be shy about saying so but try not to tear me a new one
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4/25/2010 7:09:29 PM
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4/25/2010 7:20:21 PM
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KennysBoas
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thanks everyone and a person at the pet store told me tht a snake can die from it and he told me to soak them in warm water everyday until i get it,is tht ok?
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Accepted Answer
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4/25/2010 7:22:39 PM
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Carusima
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Equate bedding spray at Wal - Mart has been flawless for all my friends. Safe on the reptile inside of the cage, just don't spray it directly on the snake. But you have to make sure yours carries it, some don't.
I use Sevin dust 5% because mine doesn't carry it. Just take everything out of the cage, sprinkle sevin dust down on it, and let the snake be in it for a few days without water. After bathing the snake of course. Then when a few days is up, make sure all environment decorations are cleaned throughly, clean out the cage, then keep a small sprinkled layer under whatever substrate you use. I always keep a very thin layer under the aspen and newspaper (as long as with the news paper you have it held down with hides and a water bowl so they can't go under it.
I take in rescues and with using Sevin Dust 5% it kills them in a matter of a couple days, eggs as well, and they don't come back.
The lice spray works as well as long as it's not sprayed directly on the snake, or sprayed in the tank while the snake is in there. Just spray it in there first, let it air out for a moment, then put the just bathed snake back in.
I've used Provent-a-mite, and sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. Usually in a small cage it works just fine, but you have to keep spraying it for when the eggs hatch. I don't really like it because on two animals I took in, it wouldn't get rid of them since they were so infested with eggs.
Just make sure you're bathing the snake for a good 15 minutes and scrubbing lightly with a toothbrush before you put it in the new enclosure!
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4/25/2010 7:24:25 PM
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Carusima
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The soaking you're going to have to do no matter what mite killer you use. The soaking is what gets rid of a lot of the adult mites, and if you scrub it will get rid of a bunch of the eggs.
Provent-a-mite will only kill your snake if you spray it on the snake, then put it in a tub with not enough airholes. It's completely safe in a well venhilated tub or tank and not sprayed on the snake.
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4/25/2010 7:40:05 PM
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KennysBoas
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well i just watched a youtube video and a guy said fill a 4 quart container up with water and pour a product called nix,its for lice but he said fill a bottle up with the water and nix and spray everything,so i guess tomorow if i cant find one then i will try the other
Thanks everyone-KennysBoas-:]
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4/25/2010 9:39:34 PM
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wintersreptiles
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One bottle of nix in a gallon of water and spray tank snake and all. Every 5 days for 3 weeks will do the trick. Had mites a few times and it worked every time, now any snake that comes in gets the nix!
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4/25/2010 9:45:10 PM
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KennysBoas
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so i can spraay the snake directly with nix?
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4/25/2010 10:17:47 PM
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EbonayiasGirl
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go to your exotic vet and get frontline mite treatment. our vet told us told us about it and gave us some because the stuff in the pet store is toxic and doesn't work very good...at least it seems to take more than one treatment to rid them of mites. frontline works good
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4/25/2010 10:32:17 PM
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aaron
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I'd avoid the major pet store mite crap. Mite-B-Gone and all that nonsense.
Get a can of Provent-A-Mite.
Its expensive compared to Nix, however when I had mites from some imports a number of years back, I underused it according to the directions, and have never seen a mite again.
Tons of people swear by it, I always, ALWAYS have a can handy, just in case.
It's the best investment you can make in your snakes. Well, outside of food and water and housing and such.
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Assisted Answer
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4/25/2010 11:11:03 PM
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shellboa
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The wal mart lice spray works great and soaking the snake while you treat the bedding is a good idea, can't hurt for sure. Do not spray anything directly onto the snake. What I have done is sprayed onto a hand towel/shop rag/old wash cloth then rubbed the snake from behind the head (neck) down and if there were mites present near the eyes or snout I use mineral oil and attempt to drown them.
Make sure you do two treatments 14 days apart to break the egg cycle or they will simply come back.
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4/26/2010 12:32:42 AM
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AbsoluteApril
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Provent-a-mite (PAM) is the only mite treatment I am aware of that was actually tested on reptiles. I know the nix and other products people say are the same *probably* work, but it only lists the active ingreedient in both with 99% unknown, I just honestly wouldn't take that chance. For about $25 shipped the PAM is more expensive but for peace of mind... it's what I do. Please read directions, it is not sprayed directly on the animal.
I've had to deal with mites 3 times in 12 years and every time Provent-a-mite does the trick with only one treatment when used correctly, I've used it in small tubs/10 gallons and in large 4x2 boa cages.
Good luck, mites suck! ;)
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4/26/2010 12:21:16 PM
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4/26/2010 12:36:48 PM
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bloodraven
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We used the nix solution and it has worked miraculously
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4/26/2010 6:31:41 PM
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Miss Andrea
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I have used Prevent a Mite (PAM) for the cages and Reptile Rescue (RR) for the snake. Spray the RR on the snake and put them in a water lined tub (not more than 2/3 up their sides) and leave them in there for half an hour. Remove water dish and spray cage. Wait 20 min and add water dish back. Also if your snake gets really dried out from a mite treatment, baby oil also works to hydrate their skin and the mites hate it.
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4/26/2010 7:29:23 PM
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KennysBoas
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okk thanks everyone and a gy named paul from pete kahl reptiles i know is gonna give me permectrin and it kills mites great so im gonaa get it soon and thanks eveeryone for everything:]]]
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4/27/2010 4:17:56 AM
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treetrunkchris
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ya nix works wonders. I use that on the tank, the give my snake an olive oil bath. It's pretty oily, but I only have to do it once, I haven't had mites in a long time. I do it to new arrivals and try to do it once a month just to make sure.
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4/27/2010 7:03:30 AM
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krackerdactyl
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Provent a mite. And washed my snakes bodies down with a lil soap n water. Seems to kill a lot of em. They keep comin back at the moment. Think I may be missing something. Snake just shed though. And the cage was thoroughly cleaned. My old reptile shop's feeders had the mites. So I kept getting them >_<
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4/27/2010 7:04:03 AM
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4/27/2010 11:58:33 AM
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Carusima
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Feeders don't have reptile mites. The red mites that are on the mice are rodent mites, while the black mites that breed on snakes affect the snakes. If you see red mites on the snake, then they're rodent mites and are not feeding off your snake, and if they are black then they are not coming off the rodents because those can not feed off rodents.
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4/27/2010 3:40:50 PM
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4/27/2010 4:14:22 PM
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Liquid
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I use a different approach. I don’t like using any chemicals for any reason with my reptiles if I can avoid it.
For mites I have only had the issue twice in the 12+years I have kept reptiles. The first time I used chemical and lost an awesome bearded dragon because I did not think the sand would hold the PAM as long as it did. The second time I went to my Vet and told him I did not want to use a chemical treatment and this is what we worked out.
To treat the tank/tub I take everything out and bleach it with a 10% bleach solution. Then rinse it out 5 times to make sure that it has no bleach residue. Then I take and fill it up with the hottest water I can get from my bathtub and let it sit until it is cold. Then set it in the sun to let it "bake" for 2-3 hours. Once it is dry I keep the tank in another room and run the vacuum in the room the snake was in.
To treat the snake I use extra virgin olive oil and coat the snake in it (not to the point that it is dripping but a good amount) every day for 7 days making sure to put it in a clean tub/tank every day and clean the old one as mentioned above. Becareful with this they get slippery and dont get it in the heat pits.
This has been the closest I have found to a holistic treatment that my Vet approved, and it worked for me the last time.
After looking in to it I found that the mites came fromone of two causes.
Ether going to a dirty pet shop and holding one of their snakes, or me taking my snakes to the petshop's to show the shops what a healthy adult ball python looks like, or showing the shop owner that he did not have a pastel ball python and what one looked like and then getting the mites that way.
But if you want to try a more holistic approach and dont want to use the chemicals this is what worked for me!
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4/28/2010 12:42:44 AM
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Queen_Ross
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I have successfully used NIX head lice shampoo....Remove your snakes water bowl 24 hours before you treat. Of course your going to want to treat the cage and furnishings with bleach and rinse until you cannot smell the bleach anymore. Mix 2oz of NIX shampoo to 16oz of water in a spray bottle. Put your snake in a sterilite or rubbermaid tub and make sure there is a lid. Spray the lid, and put some water in the tub about enough to cover half of your snake. Before you put your snake in the tub spray the snake from the neck down belly and back and rub it in with your hands, again make sure the lid is sprayed down, put your snake in and leave it there for an hour or so. rep[eat the process every 4-6 days. make sure that while you are treating your snake for mites you put him in a quarantine like enclosure with newspaper substrate and hide, using just the necessities. offer water everyday, but we were told do not put a water bowl back in the tank until treatment is over.
Another thing you can do is pick up some seven 5 dust from lowes or a local hardware store dust your cage and furnishings with that make sure there is no excess left over, that was somethng our vet had us do also. This seemed to work well for us.
I was also just told that 'frontline" flea spray works well. Again you will take the water bowl out 24 hours before you treat. I was told you can spray this directly on your animal and use a cotton ball to apply it to your animals face.
I hope some of this can help you. We found great success with the NIX and was inexspensive. Good luck!!!
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4/28/2010 9:43:36 AM
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crazysnakelady
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Another way to treat with Nix is to get the cream rinse and mix with 1 gallon of DISTILLED water (longer shelf life). Shake until dissolved. Pour into spray bottle and spray enclosure and snake. Of course remove the water bowl, and do not replace for 48 hours. I've had great success with this. Repeat in a week or 2.
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4/28/2010 11:50:08 PM
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Crazy4Herps
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Provent-A-Mite is the only way to go. I spent 5 months battling a growing mite infestation with Reptile Relief and daily soaking. Then I decided my method wasn't working, so I bought some PAM and within the week, the mites were gone, never to be seen again. The problem with mites is that they can crawl outside of the enclosure and become dormant for many months. PAM lasts longer than most mite treatments; if you use it every 30 days for six months, you eliminate all chances of dormant mites returning.
While I'm sure some lice treatments and roach killers work, I would never recommend any product that isn't specifically meant for reptiles. Be VERY careful about what you choose; toxins are not only toxic to bugs!
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1/24/2011 2:15:43 PM
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Liquid
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OK so before this closes I just had a thought and wanted to see if I can get some feedback on it.
Has anyone ever heard of using a preditor incest to kill the mites?
Hypoaspis miles
Hypoaspis are used primarily for control of fungus gnat larvae, but they also feed on western flower thrips pupae.
Hypoaspis can also be effective at ridding pet tarantulas, lizards and snakes of pest mites. Moisten area before introducing Hypoaspis. Introduce a few tablespoons of substrate with hypoaspis per habitat every day, as needed. Pest mites should dissappear within 48 hours. Continue introducing Hypoaspis until container is empty. Lighter dosages serve as a preventative, higher dosages as a curative.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!
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