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8/7/2010 11:41:09 PM
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shellboa
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When you spray it on the bedding let it dry for about 20-30 minutes or till its dry if you touch it. Then you can safely put them back. I generally leave the water dish out for a day or two so they don't slither around on the bedding and then drag it into the water to soak etc etc. I have also sprayed a little bit into a rag and wiped from behind the head on down to the tail to get off as many as possible. When doing this the rag is barely sprayed like not even damp really, just enough to grab any on the surface. And don't wipe the head. Use mineral oil on a q-tip to dab eyes, vents and that chin crack. Don't forget to repeat this in 10 days.
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8/7/2010 11:41:52 PM
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shellboa
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Oh and don't wash out the enclosure after you spray because its the residue that kills the mites.
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8/8/2010 1:33:46 PM
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dalvers63
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Or skip the Nix and use Provent-a-Mite or (if you've used it before) any lice bedding spray that uses Permethrin. While the Nix works, you have to keep repeating it every 10 days or so. With the PAM you treat once and then again in 30 days if needed.
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8/8/2010 1:39:20 PM
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hupababy83
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Thank you both for replying! Can anyone tell me how soon I can feed them after a treatment?
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8/8/2010 11:16:13 PM
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shellboa
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I would give them a day or two after so much messing around and then offer. If they are good steady eaters you might consider using a feed tub for a week or two after just to be safe in case they ingest bedding.
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8/9/2010 1:58:28 AM
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Jeffriey
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Did you not read the instructions I sent you LOL. I've taken in snakes knowing they had mites but I'm still paranoid when it comes to this because I have seen how it can spread and effect entire collections. Main thing before hand is to make sure the snake has drank water and not thirsty. This way it wont drink any of the solution when sprayed. When I've had to deal with this any substrate goes straight into a trash bag and put outside. I have a clean temporary bin that has been sprayed ready and the snake is transfered straight into there while I clean the enclosure and not placed anywhere else where mites can fall off and walk off someplace. Little pests can walk very quickly. Enclosure is sprayed, cleaned and then sprayed again inside out. Let it dry as the residue continues to work even after its dried and will kill any eggs too. No substrate goes back in. White paper towel is best so you can easily see if there are any mites still around. With nix I spray down the whole snake, head and all and have never had a problem. I dont think I would do this with the more delicate species though. I put the snake back in the cage as soon as its been cleaned and treated. Oh and feeding is the least of your problems right now so don't worry if they miss a meal but if you want to like Michelle said wait a couple of days and try. Spray and thoroughly clean down the area where you were working too. Lastly throw your clothes in the washer, shower and have a nice cold beer....
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8/9/2010 9:18:48 AM
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hupababy83
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Hahaha jeff yes I read it I over and over and OVER again! But it didn't answer my questions! Lol and you dont reply fast enough so I came here.
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8/14/2010 10:12:01 PM
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bondo
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Spray the snake and the tub. Put down newspaper and put the snake back in. Leave the water dish out for 24 hours. You do not wash the snake or the nix won't work. I throw the paper in the tub while it is wet also, no worries it isn't harmful.
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8/17/2010 2:36:49 PM
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Aimee
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I wouldn't ever spray a snake directly with pesticides. if they're weren't able to harm the snake, you wouldn't have to wait for it to dry.
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8/17/2010 4:28:08 PM
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bondo
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I wouldn't consider nix a pesticide. I mean it is made for human use. You have to remember it is extremely diluted. It will not work if it isn't sprayed on the snake. I think you might be confusing this with PAM. That is a pesticide that shouldn't be sprayed on the snake.
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8/17/2010 5:18:07 PM
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Aimee
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I understand that NIX is not pyrethrins. it's still a pesticide and I still wouldn't spray it directly on the snake. just because things are safe for people, doesn't mean they're safe for reptiles. has there ever been a study?
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8/17/2010 7:28:07 PM
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Aimee
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oops, sorry - I went to look it up because I was curious about the ingredients. I assumed Nix was a non-pyrethrin because of how safe it's supposed to be. it's absolutely a pyrethrin compound, 0.25% permethrin. PAM is 0.5% permethrin. so it's the same chemical, just diluted 1:2. anyways, I apologize if I've in any way jacked the thread and I don't want to simply appear argumentative, but these are serious questions.
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8/17/2010 7:35:58 PM
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hupababy83
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It's ok Aimee, no prob. I'm still fightng the Lil blood suckers tho! And now have two boas with RI's! Ahhhh I wanna run away lol
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8/18/2010 5:31:16 PM
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bondo
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Aimee,
I understand your concerns, and think more of you because of it. We all want the best for our snakes.
The Nix treatment has been in use for years. It has been used for a lot longer than PAM has. Nix will not work after it has dried. It kills the mites when it is wet, but does nothing once it dries. It has 0.25% permethrin as you stated, but you also need to dilute it. 8 oz of Nix to 1 gallon of water. It is diluted to the point that once it dries it does nothing. I have used both and feel much better about Nix. When you spray PAM in your tubs (never on the snakes) you allow it to dry and put the snake back in. The only problem is once the tub gets wet, misting, spilled water, etc.... It is activated again and the snake sucks fumes. The maker of PAM says this is not an issue and that PAM has been sprayed directly on snakes with no ill effect. He said however just to be sure don't spray on the snake directly. I don't have or have ever had an issue with PAM I just feel better about Nix. If people don't like Nix I have no issue with that. I just want people to know that once it dries it isn't effective anymore.
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8/18/2010 5:37:15 PM
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hupababy83
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Hmmmmm I was told recently that the NIX bed/furniture spray can be used just like PAM, on the tanks, around the tanks, even on the furniture to kill mites! Is this true?
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8/18/2010 6:04:27 PM
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bondo
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I have never used the spray but I would assume it would work. If you used it undilluted then I would probably not spray the snake directly. Here is a link to some info to the dilluted version. After reading this I see there is some effectiveness to the Nix solution after it dries. I am unsure as to how efective it is after it dries however. http://www.albertareptilesociety.org/caresheets/nix.pdf
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8/18/2010 6:36:56 PM
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dalvers63
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I would think that is correct - you'll want to use the same precautions as you would using Provent-a-Mite and make sure the stuff is dry before adding in the snake again. I've found that any of the lice bedding sprays work just fine. I usually only recommend them to people who have used PAM before as they will then understand the precautions to take and the procedure for using it.
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8/18/2010 9:09:29 PM
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Aimee
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thank you, Bondo! I appreciate the clarification, for sure.
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8/22/2010 8:08:45 PM
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Herp_junky
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Personally I've only ever needed one treatment using NIX or RID,its usually needed when the head and cage isn't treated. Definitely wash the snake off after as well as the water bowl. I usually clean the enclosure once nix has been in for a while with a bleach solution. The reason I swear by NIX is you can get it on the eyes,which is the number one spot for mites to lay eggs. I use a 50/50 lather on the snake itself and let it stay on for no more than ten minutes(every inch of the snake) then wash thoroughly. Then I mix one teaspoon to 60 teaspoons of water and treat the cage and decor as well as around the outside of the cage and the floor surrounding it. Let the decor dry before replacing and wash the water bowl out with bleach solution before returning it to the cage. Good luck,I feel for ya...mites suck
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1/25/2011 11:41:09 AM
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abi21491
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