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Unhandleable neonate corn snake!
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Hello everyone, I am somewhat distressed, I received a new neonate cornsnake on wednesday of this week. I have never encountered a "mean" cornsnake before, ever. She is more aggressive than any corn snake I have found while out fielding! In the past 48 hours, I cannot tell you how many times she has struck and bit me, including once in the face! Of couse a neonate cant hurt you, lol, but I am at a total loss for what to do with her!!! She was born in July of 2011, and I got her from a well known breeder that I am under the impression to be very reputable, but I am not sure it is "kosher" to list the name of the herp in public... What would/should you do in this situation? I am at a loss...
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Accepted Answer
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3/9/2012 11:10:13 PM
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tmth
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You have not given the snake any time whatsoever to calm down and acclimate to its new home. Put the snake in its cage and DO NOT touch the snake for the next week, or TWO weeks even since it is probably extremely stressed out. Once the snake's been by itself, alone without you bothering it for a week or two, try feeding-- when the snake is eating regularly, then slowly start handling it. I don't have corns, and never will, but its not specific to just corns that snakes can get stressed out over a change in environment-- especially if they were shipped.
I've dealt with very nippy snakes before and yes, frequent handling is ideal, but you need to let the snake calm down and get used to its new environment before you introduce yourself as a factor. Once its acclimated then start handling... you may find after a few meals and a few weeks of getting used to the new place they may be much more better behaved.
Also-- did you inquire as to what the "personality" of the snake was before you bought it? Bigger breeders in particular don't necessarily handle all of their snakes or work on having them tame... its not always a trait that people demand and when a breeder has a large amount of babies its not very practical either.
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Assisted Answer
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3/9/2012 11:18:57 PM
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Doomtrooper
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Jusdt let it settle in and dont try to handle it at all get it feeding and settled and let it Chill !! it cant get any worse then it already is .. all you are going to do os stress it more give it time it's a baby it will calm down ..
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Member Comment
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3/9/2012 11:34:34 PM
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joe farah
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Lauren and Michael summed it up. I'd like to re-stress lauren's last paragraph... and add that getting a nervous snake should not reflect on the breeder's reputability at all and you shouldn't be the least bit upset with him. Just my less than humble opinion
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Member Comment
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3/9/2012 11:37:46 PM
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joe farah
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Also if the snake was born back in July it isn't a neonate anymore
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Author Comment
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3/10/2012 12:31:12 AM
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Katiessnakes
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Ok, I just want to add a little more info for food for thought... I know that it is best to let the snake acclimate to its new environment, and I have only attempted to handle her 2 times (once 24 hrs after arrival, and once this evening) for a very short period of time, which may have been a mistake HOWEVER, I do believe it is necessary to properly examine a snake, especially when you have a 48 hour window to report back to the herp about any issues you notice about the snake. Also, this is not the first snake I have ever had, and I have never once encountered anything like this, that is why I am at a loss. I guess I'm just genuinely worried that this goes beyond her being scared, and is it possible she is just mean...? I specifically got her as part of a future breeding project and I dont want to be afraid that she may harm any of my males...
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Member Comment
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3/10/2012 12:34:01 AM
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Two Corny People
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We fully agree with what has been stated above...let us expand on this. A fellow breeder once told us that a corn snake bite is the equivalent of velcro. To this day we still get struck at by various age groups and sizes. If your handling when feeding, keep in mind that snakes have a very good sense of smell and can smell the prey item on you...hence the defensive posture. We handle our corn snakes daily but that does not mean that once we send a snake to a new owner that the snake is going to respond to its new surroundings in a similar manner. Give it time as stated above and as the snake becomes more familiar with you and its surroundings it should begin to calm down.
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Author Comment
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3/10/2012 12:34:54 AM
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Katiessnakes
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And, as a side note @ Joe, I thought until a yearling, they were neonates, my bad.. is juvenile the proper word? Or what is the proper term for an almost 8 month old snake? Thanks :)
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Member Comment
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3/10/2012 12:55:25 AM
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joe farah
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Juvenile works... Not sure there's a fixed age for the definition of neonate but it means "new born". Best of luck getting her calmed down
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Member Comment
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3/10/2012 1:30:29 AM
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Tiki108
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I agree with what everyone has said, it's fine to examine them, but keep in mind they are probably pretty scared at that time and might react poorly. After examining I would give at least 1 week to settle in, if not 2 before trying to handle.
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Member Comment
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3/10/2012 4:15:22 AM
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NWHeather
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Babies/juveniles tend to be bitey, that's why many people sometimes refer to them as "hatelings". It has nothing to do with thre reputation of the the breeder. Think of it this way: This tiny little creature is acting defensively because it thinks you (anything larger than it) is going to eat them.
I agree to leave her alone for a week or two. If you continue to handle her, you could stress her out & cause her to refuse to eat. Like Lauren said, after some time, you can then worry about getting her used to being handled. I personally, do not handle my babies very often, IMO, the less stress the better. They will get used to me as I feed them, change their water, clean their bins, & weigh them.
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Member Comment
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3/10/2012 8:42:27 AM
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ghosthousecorns
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Great advice so far.
If your little one still acts aggresively after the acclimation period just be patient. Your best bet is consistent handling and just letting her realize biting you is getting her nowhere - a bite from a small corn doesn't hurt that much even if it's understandable to feel nervous. I often tell kids at herp expos that want to hold a snake "If you are relaxed, the snake will feel more relaxed too"
After a while most corns will tame down or eventually grow out of it. But keep in mind in the future if you want to get another corn that it's a good idea to tell the nreeder if you want a tame one. I have produced corns for years and most babies are a little feisty, but not all. I would much rather know up front if someone wants a snake that isn't that feisty.
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Author Comment
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3/10/2012 9:08:30 AM
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