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Q: My new, fully grown (5 years) Brazilian rainbow boa is very aggressive, bites repeatedly. Can this be trained out of a mature BRB the way it can be trained out of young ones by just letting it bite?
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Eclectix

Yesterday I got a new Brazilian rainbow boa; he's fully grown, about 5 years old and very beautiful. That's not the problem. The problem is that I tried handling him for the first time tonight and ended up getting bit repeatedly.

I am beginning to believe that the previous owner did not handle mine much at all, except perhaps with a hook to take him out and feed him. When they went to place him into my transport container they grasped him behind the head, which I thought was odd unless one is worried about getting bit, but when I got him home I put him into his new tank by hand and he was really quite mellow so I thought little of it.

However, as I stated above, I ran into problems when I attempted to handle him to give him a more thorough looking-over for the first time tonight. I was careful not to startle him and let him know I was there, but he bit me anyway on the palm of my left hand, drawing a small amount of blood. Not one to give up so easily, I told him, "Now that's not going to get you anywhere." (Yes, I speak fluent Parseltongue.)

So I picked him up and placed him on my lap, and he struck again (again on my left hand, as he was coiled and grasping onto my right hand at this point.) This time he drew quite a bit more blood. I didn't want to put him back right after this and teach him that biting = no more hand, so I kept him on my lap- but he kept moving up towards my face. I was not eager to get bit on the face, so I adjusted the position of my left hand to gently pull him back away from my face and twice more he got me on the same hand, each time the bites came as I moved my hand to adjust my handle on him. The fifth time he struck at me I reflexively moved my hand out of the way. I managed to handle him for a good ten minutes or so despite all of this, and then I put him back in his container and cleaned up the blood/scrubbed with alcohol.

I know that BRBs tend to be nippy at first, but from what I've read they usually get over that if they are handled enough; however, I've only ever read this as it applies to babies.

Can a 5 year old adult be trained not to bite by simply handling him more often?

What about wearing gardening gloves for a while so that he can bite to his heart's content? Or, will he simply learn not to bite the glove, and still strike the hand once the gloves come off? Or is he likely too set in his ways to change at this age?

Also, do BRBs have two rows of teeth? Because one of the bites has two rows of tooth marks, so it's either that, or he bit me twice in the same spot so quickly so that I thought it was just one bite.

Thanks in advance.


Points: 250
Topics: General Health
Tags: Adult, Aggression, Boa, Brazilian, Rainbow
Species: Boas > Rainbow Boas > Epicrates cenchria cenchria
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Accepted Answer 8/16/2012 8:14:23 AM

Sonja K. Reptiles

I understand your need to want to examine him up close, but since you just got him, I think the best thing you can do to start out here is to leave him alone fora couple weeks - let him get familiar with his new surroundings, have a couple meals, and then see how he does. It could be that he is simply stressed right now.

And yes, 2 rows of teeth... 

 
Assisted Answer 8/16/2012 9:16:45 AM

Cenobite

What Sonja said. Just let him be for a while. Once he gets acclimated he will get better. Right now the more you try to handle him the more you're going to get bit.

 
Assisted Answer 8/16/2012 10:17:50 AM

jellyfishrhythm

Going to echo the sentiments of Sonja and George - in my experience, when you're taking in an adult snake, you have to give it a bit of breathing room before you attempt to handle it or feed it. Chances are the snake was set in its ways in its previous home (5 years is a relatively good amount of time to be accustomed to the same thing). Do you know anything about its previous owner?

As far as I'm concerned, new-snake-adjustment goes as follows:

1.) soak (particularly if it's picked up from a show, namely because being in deli cups, stressed out for an extended period of time leads to dehydration - this may not be the case with you)

2.) introduce to the new habitat (once you've made sure that you've cycled the temperatures a few times and that they're stable and correct for the species - having a big temperature variance between homes can definitely create some behavior modifications, even if they're temporary)

3.) leave it alone for a while - at least a few days, but I prefer to wait closer to a week. Observing from the outside will give you a chance to note any potential ailments (URI, mites, nose-rubbing, etc), and to allow them to get used to your particular day/night schedule (nobody's are identical). Extenuating circumstances can occur where you have to attempt to feed earlier than this, but more often than not, they're fine.

4.) attempt to feed - be sure you know whether or not the BRB was eating live or F/T in its previous domecile (it can make all the difference)

5.) once you've had a successful feeding schedule set into place for a few weeks, allowed them time to adjust to their new habitat and its inherent temperature/humidity gradients, ruled out any outstanding ailments, then you can start messing with him - but do so carefully, and for small amounts of time at increasing intervals. if they associated being handled with being out for a long time and getting pissed off, your scheme will start to work against you. :-)

 

 

This is my general policy for adult snakes. I usually expedite the process for babies/hatchlings, but it doesn't surprise me that a 5 year old BRB of all things is a little stubborn. :-)   Good luck! And remember, even if the bite isn't particularly earth-shattering or painful, you're getting bitten because the snake is trying to send you a message, and if you continue to not get the message, they will continue to try to send it and maintain a certain level of stress about it.

Hope this helps! Again, this isn't any set-in-stone policy, it's just how I handle any adult snakes I take in, and it's worked marvelously for me thus far (I still have YET to be bitten! - perhaps that's just dumb luck)

Oh, and FYI, some BRB's are just jerks. They have to be, they're just so fancy! ;-)

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