He's half out but if I force him now, it's likely he'll slink back behind the tank.....now for the waiting game. He's taunting me! Touche, Odin, touche.

You must aquire an appropriately "escape proof" enclosure.  I'm a huge fan of Boaphile Plastics cages.  They have very sturdy latches that no snake will ever hope to overcome.  Not sure if you're anywhere near upstate NY, but I happen to have a couple 422D cages that are still in excellent condition but that I no longer need.  Could offer you a good deal on one two of them, if you're intersted.

Yeah you need a front opening cage with locking latches.

I understand I need a better enclosure, or at least a better lid-system, because he's not coming out of anywhere but the lid, which is strong, IF held down appropriately, ughhhh...but I don't know how fast this can happen, basically. Odin's in his home for now.....I'm sure I'm up for more sleepless nights until this is figured out. We're both worn out though, that's for sure. Warfare will do that. But, we'll call this one a draw.

I'm in Indiana too KCB. We're planning to build hopefully, or have an enclosure built, either/or. but I need a solution for this given moment essentially.

Got any duct tape? If something can't be fixed with duct tape, then it can't be fixed. Obviously a very temporary solution and you'll have the sticky stuff on the glass that will need to be cleaned later.

Try those bid landscaping border stones? That'll be about 30 lbs he'd have to move if you used 3 of them.

Hahaha, you're actually the 3rd or so person to suggest duct tape to me! But I think I have an idea I'll run by you guys for ideas and stuff. If I take some zip ties, put two on either side of the tank near the center where I'm having the issues, then I'll take those hooked bungee cord cables, a bit shorter than the height of the tank so there's no slack and that they're stretched a bit for tension, and hook them through the zip ties which will be secured around the frame of the lid, then the other end under the tank. Sound like an idea worth trying???

Can't hurt to try. However, really, a new tank is the solution. 

How did you make out?  Did he escape again?  I havn't had to deal with my big carpet going AWOL yet, but I have a ton of clamps and weights on his tank just for good measure.  If the bungees have any give what so ever, he will be able to get out.  Your best bet will be weighting the tank lid down quite heavily for the time being.  Those large garden pavers sound like they might work...or, get the large, heavy-duty zip ties and attatch the tank lid to the cross-bar in the tank.  make sure they are tight enough that he can't get stuck in them.  They are cheap enough to buy a huge bag that you can replace them every time you need to open the cage.  It's by no means permanent, but it might do the trick until you can get him a more appropriate cage.  

Sounds like its time for a new enclosure. I'm sure you could sell your current glass enclosure on craigslist to recover most of the money you'll spend on a new enclosure or supplies to build one. You probably would be better off in the long run, I found glass & screen usually eventually leads to problems either with nose rubbing during escape attempts or keeping proper temps/humidity. The cheapest enclosures I found were the boamaster cages, especially if you can make it to a show & save yourself a delivery charge. The melamine cages dont cost much more then if you built them yourself. I'm really happy with the quality & haven't experienced any issues with them so far but will say they are pretty heavy for one person to move. Even if it only helps with ideas when building your own I figured it was worth a mention.

PS - Odin is a handsome fella.

I agree with KCB. I have mine in a boaplastics cage (422D to be exact) and she hasn't escaped once since I had her. 

He's containted with my contraption for now, and when my husband returns we will be building an enclosure, or buying if time or circumstances won't allow a build. I'm aware something more efficient is probably needed, but really the tank's been great thus far. I'm wondering if one of my females ovulating is causing his exhaustive efforts. But the temporary thing was the issue. Life isn't going as planned at this point, and as long as he has plenty of space, and isn't in any means of harms way, that this tank will have to do.It's actually a really nice and really big tank, 6' x 1.5' x 2'.  He can stretch out , and only uses maybe 1-2/3 of the whole thing, but it's not a cost thing, i just spent 200$ on shelves just for their tanks, and have spent so much money I've lost count to accommodate them happily, well as much as a snake can be happy I hope. I will spend whatever I need to keep him safe, happy, and efficiently contained. But time is the issue. My husband is fully capable of building, wiring, etc etc, so soon enough we hope. If not I have a lot of sources that can build for decent prices. But let's just hope for sooner than later. For now the bunge cords are sufficing, he made some attempts  the last night, but was met with chagrin, haha. For now he's contained, and I'm going to work on the whole situation. The cords have no slack, but aren't so stretched they'll snap either. 

Well this will have to suffice until money/circumstances allow. He's not getting out, trust me. But like I've said, he will have a different enclosure when I can do so.

PS- I also have a thing that is the thickness of the top of the mid lid to the center upper support beam of the shelf above wedged in for an extra measure.

Something I have had to do for my little ball python that I lovingly call 'Houdini', is put on a screen lid overtop of her existing sliding screen lid, then put those useless metal clamps on and then for the grand finale, I bought 2-3ft. woodclamps that have a quickslide adjust on them and put those on either end. As it is a typical glass enclosure, I have to use just the right amount of pressure on the lid. Tight enough that she can't get it off but not so tight that I'll break the glass!! So far,so good...

I forgot to add something, whenever I have the unfortunate experience of trying to coax one of my bad kids out from some pretty impossible places (think inside and underneath a stove, up and under a countertop covering a dishwasher, um you get the picture!) I've had the best luck with just turning the lights off and sitting in the dark room with them waiting with a flashlight. I've usually not had to wait more than 45-60 minutes max before they get bored and just come out on their own. (even my gecko crawled out from under a dishwasher eventually!) Hope you don't have to do that too often, kind of sucks to say the least. Cheers!

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