has he been tested for anything viral?

Viral, such as? He was just tested for RI, because of his lack of signs we aren't to sure what to even test for..

I know, that is my fear too, that it could be somthing like Cancer....My vet admited that he doesn't have an exact answer, he thought it had been Bronchitis, but once he knew that I had already raised humdity and done all of that that it should have improved...this is all just so frusterating, and of course, I cant find any sort of information on Snakes with Cancer or things like that....

Does it have any weird bumps or anything on it? Sounds exactly what I went through with one of my boas-but he had weird bumps all over him. He passed from cancer. Otherwise i'm not sure-but does sound exactly like my experience. I really hope it isn't something bad.

No Lumps, the Vet and myslef have consistintly felt him up and down his body to check for anything unusual...

Just an out there idea, but has he been xrayed? What if something is stuck in there?

White count up, red count down? He's obviously got an infection of some sort then. Or cancer.

My thoughts parallel George's. 

Could the low red count be due to the anorexia?  Did the vet do any sort of chem panel or just the count?  I'd be concerned about his kidneys.  Kidney disease/infection/cancer would produce those kinds of results.  Other cancers might include leukemia or maybe bone cancer?  Of course, it could be an infection still - many things are resistant to Baytril.  Trying another antibiotic might be worth the effort.  It could be viral, but that could be hard to pinpoint.  I'm no doctor... so all of these are just thoughts.

I'd want to see if a chem panel was run/can be run to check the organs, and then possibly try another antibiotic like Fortaz (Ceftazidime).

BTW - thank you for the detailed description and post.  And I sure hope he does improve for you.

He has not been x-rayed, with his loss of weight he is still at a low healthy range; he was a larger built snake beforehand. We could do an x-ray to make sure nothing stuck, but he has defecated since he stopped eating twice in the first month or two then he defecated again just a few weeks ago when he shed, so I would think anything would be stuck, but we could always try.

The vet said he could have a low red count due to not eating, but it seems extremely low for a snake. I am not sure if he did have a Chem Panel or just a count. I go in tomorrow to get the Ivermectin Shot in the morning and I am going to ask for a copy of all his results for the culture and the blood sample. He plan on trying another antibiotic, the vet was just being carefully not to pack his body full of antibiotics, especially if it is not something that can be treated by antibiotics.

If it was JUST the low red count that would be one thing. But combined with a high white count means somethings wrong. I'm just not sure what.

I know that is what has gotten me stumped so bad, his blood restults make it look way worse then how he has been acting and his phisical signs. took him out today just to see how he is acting/feeling. He looks like he is fairly thin to me, much smaller then the big boy he was before. He is active and moves around a lot. He isn't on edge and he is still his mild tempered self. I peeked in his mouth a little, still no discharge or anything odd like that, but the sides of his gums(?) looked lighter then normal. My guess it is just from the low red blood cell count. Granted I hadnt sat and checked out his mouth all day before he was sick. Felt up and down his body and he felt normal, nothing odd, nothing poking out....this has just become so frusterating...

oh, yeah, if he's anemic his gums will be pale.

Of course if it's not a problem fixable with antibiotics you don't want to stress his system with extra meds that aren't helping.  Especially if it's a renal problem.  Glad to hear he's at least behaving normally.  I think.  Of course, if he weren't behaving normally it could give you an idea of what was wrong... maybe.

I hadn't meant to imply that nothing was wrong with him aside from the anorexia - but rather just suggest that it could possibly be a factor in the results.  I know you're doing everything you can for him, and it's great that you and your vet are working together to get this ironed out.  Hopefully something will work.

What about his hydration level? Have you soaked him at all, seeing him drink? Has a fecal been done? Any sign of blood in the stools?

Hydration Levels seem fine. I have soaked him several times because we suspected RI and I have seen him drink. No Fecal Samply has been done, no signs of blood in stool. I havnt been able to get a sample of stool because i have an extreme work schedule and my vet isnt close and his latest stool was just compltly smushed in his shed

I wonder if an ultrasound would prove more informative than a x-ray?

If you get any kind of fecal matter, bag it up and refrigerate it. I'd think a fecal has a chance of showing / ruling something out.

Just to the feeding bit, antibiotics will often cause, or exaggerate, non feeding.  Very similar to the effect antibiotics can have on the human digestive system.  Any time I give any animal antibiotics, I usually follow up with some type of probiotics.  There are various brands available for reptiles, Acidophiliz+, Bene-bac, NutriBac. I would definitely use something of this nature, especially if you are going to keep adding more antibiotics like Ivermectin. 

As to the blood tests, I agree with the consensus that I high white count and a low red count is not a good sign.  BUT...

Is there any reliable info on what a healthy white or red count is for any snake?  Much less any Morelia?  Or any Morelia spilota?  Or an M.s. cheynei?  I am not knocking your vet or anyone else here, but does any reliable info on this exist?

Alright so back from the vet. I have his exact blood results. They did do the Chem Panel: I willl list the results, not that I can completly understand them but:

Alk Phosphatase:Results10, the Referance Range 17-54 U/L

AST(SGOT) Results: 21 Referance range: 2-48 U/L

CK: Results 404 Referance Range 82-239 U/L

LDH Results: 81 Referance Range: 37-126 IU/L

Albumin Result 2.2 Referance Range: 2.2-3.9g/dL

Total Protien Result 11.4 referance range: 4.1-7.9 g/dL

Globulin Results 9.2 Referance Range 3.2-4.8 g/dL

Glucose Results 46 Referance Range 12-80mg/dL

Calcium: Results 14 Referance Range: 11.7-17.8mg/dL

Sodium Results 151 Referance Range: 130-152 mEq/L

A/G Ratio Results 0.2 referance 0.4-0.9

Uric Acid Resuts 3.8 Referance Range 2.1-12 mg/dL

White blood count Results 15.4 Referance Range 8-12

HCT Results 14 Reerance Range 25-40%

Heterophils 12 Referance range 30-68%

Lymphocytes Results 49 referance range 20-60

Monocytes results 39 referance range 0-3%

The Culture Sample taken from the Tracheal came up with nothing. We did the ivermectin shot today. I plan on getting some probiotics for him asap. He said the next step in a week or so if he shows no improvments is to try and do some x-rays to see what we can come up with, and start debating on if we should try tube feeding to give him a jump start into wanting to feed again..

Just attemped to feed him a pre-killled small rat in a dark plastic container. Left him in there for about an hour or two just to see if the quite darkness would help provoke him to eat. It didn't. He completly ignored the rat and kept trying to get out. I changed out all his bedding to new clean bedding. My vet said that if he doesn't start eating in a few weeks (I think I'll give it about 2 weeks maybe 3) that he should come back for some more testing. I am thinking about asking the vet if he can tube feed him to see if that will spark a feeding responce(possibly keep him at the vets in one of m setups for 48ish hours so that the drive back wont make him throw it up) He also recomended doing some x-rays to see if we see anything off and if we do do an ultrasound of the area...this has really just become frusterating...

I agree I think xray/ultrasound is in order. I'd hold off on the feeding though. He's under enough stress already.

Alright :/ At what point do you think tube feeding will be nessarary? I mean, he is not deathly skinny but he is much skinnier then I'd hope. He blood results show muscle break down and anemia and i was thinkng getting some food in there would at least help a little...

Xray/ultrasound are both noninvasive. If it turns out to be cancer, the stress of force feeding may not even be worth it.

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