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Q: Green Tree Python Tips/Advice?
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VFiglenski

I've always had ball pythons, but I'm looking at possibly getting a green tree python this year.
I've done quite a bit of research on them, and I feel confident that I'd be able to care for one. All the sites I've looked at all say 86-88 degrees on the hot side and about 80 on the cool side. Humidity between 40-70%. Just about every side recommends a daily misting. I have a tall glass tank that I could use(I have plexiglass covers for the screen openings for better humidity) and all the necessary equipment.

Any tips or advice before I get one? I want to be sure I know what I'm getting into before I make a final decision.

Also, what are some things to look for when purchasing a GTP?


Points: 50
Topics: General Health , Caging , Utensiles/Tools
Tags: Advice, Chondro, Greentreepython, Tips
Species: Pythons > Morelia > Morelia viridis
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Accepted Answer 5/22/2013 9:12:08 AM

bsharrah

Opinions vary.  Personally, I would never use a glass tank, avoid misting, and try to stay more in the 78-85 range.  Humidity should be in cycles and not kept high for extended periods.  Best advice I can offer is buy from a captive breeder and follow the care info that specific breeder uses for his/her animals.  Considering your location, I would check out a member here by the user name tduane.

 
Assisted Answer 5/22/2013 10:09:09 AM

NCCPythons

I agree with Bart, 86\88 is a bit high depending on the size of your cage.  Personally I mist but again as Bart says in cycles, you probably don't have to mist every day and let the cage dry out completely before misting\wetting again.  A glass enclosure is not ideal but it can work.  There are a lot of good guys on this site breeding\selling gtps and Tad is one of them.

 
Author Comment 5/22/2013 10:27:12 AM

VFiglenski

I'm glad I posted on here, thanks guys.

What would work better than a glass enclosure? Preferedly something that doesn't cost a fortune or even something that I could make.

 
Member Comment 5/22/2013 11:14:52 AM

bsharrah

What do you have available to you at this point?  You say you have all the necessary equipment.  What does that mean, and include?

You can make a cheap plastic tub work in the right environment.

 
Author Comment 5/22/2013 11:27:31 AM

VFiglenski

By necessary equipment, I mean heat lamps, heat pads(since they are aboreal, probably won't use one), repti-bark for substrate, sphragnum moss(most GTP care sheets I've seen recommend it), that tall glass tank.

I do have an three-tub adult-size ball python rack that I keep two ball pythons in, so there is an extra tub. Would it be possible to use the extra tub?

 
Assisted Answer 5/22/2013 12:50:48 PM

Nightflight99

My recommendation is to get a proper plastic/PVC enclosure with a radiant heat panel and proportional thermostat for heating, and a small fluorescent tube for lighting. Glass enclosures can be made to work, but there are far superior options available. As far as the temperature range is concerned, I agree with Bart and Bob.

As far as choosing the animal itself, your first choice should be an animal from a reputable breeder (as opposed to one of the volume dealers), who is willing to help you along with any questions both before and after the purchase of the animal. Don't shop by price alone, or you may have to end up spending more than what you saved after the fact.

 
Member Comment 5/22/2013 12:53:50 PM

NCCPythons

I'm assuming you're thinking about purchasing a younger snake (something around a year or younger).  If that's the case and without knowing the dimensions of the tub, I think the rack would be ideal.  I assume the rack has either bottom or back heat which would be great and tubs in general tend to create\retain humidity better.  If you go with the tub\rack then I would just use paper towel or newspaper on the bottom.  One or two perches of the appropriate size would be nice and maybe a fake plant to add some security.  A water bowl raised to around perch height so the young snake can find it easily.  I think that would be a good setup to start with.

 
Author Comment 5/22/2013 2:59:32 PM

VFiglenski

I'll definitely be going to a reputable breeder. I'm also not looking to rush into things, I'd much rather have all the information and things needed to care for one properly right from the start. It may be a while before I actually make a purchase.

I'll be on the lookout for a plastic or PVC enclosure.

 
Member Comment 5/22/2013 3:18:05 PM

bsharrah

Yeah, I am going to suggest ignoring a lot of the care sheets you seem to be reading.  People have made glass tanks, Exo's, and similar housing work but so many have had a lot of problems attempting to do so.

I understand not wanting to spend a fortune but I just can't recommend using anything other than a rack type system for younger animals, and a plastic cage with radiant heat panel and tstat for older animals.  Both approaches will probably cost you more than you intended to spend.  I also suggest paper towels or newspaper and would abondon the use of the heat lamp, repti-bark, moss, and tank.  Again, not saying you can't use them, only saying I would not recommend using them.

The fact that you are asking before you purchased the animal is highly commendable.  Since you are looking to save a buck and are not in a hurry, I suggest monitoring sites like Fauna or Craigslist for ads from people selling used equipment.

Good luck!

 
Author Comment 5/22/2013 3:36:26 PM

VFiglenski

What is a good place to get radient heat pannels from? Either in store or off a website. Also for a plastic cage?

When I do purchase a gtp, I'm looking to get one that's about a year old.

 
Member Comment 5/22/2013 11:56:56 PM

Steadfast

if I had to give you any advice it would be to get one then get another and another 

 
Assisted Answer 5/23/2013 12:35:27 AM

Big Sarge

Continue to read everything you can, including books and care sheets. Just be mindful that lot of the material may be outdated. I also highly recommend subscribing to all of the chondro/arboreal forums. I have learned so much from those sites. I read all of the comments, including the archives. Most of the (outdated) care sheets recommend a taller enclosure. But keepers have since realized that more horizontal space is better, slightly cooler temps are preferred, and daily mistings of the animal aren't necessary and could lead to respiratory infections. I have three recently acquired chondros. (My first, a beautiful high yellow specimen, I purchased from Bart Sharrah from a classified on this site). They are young so I keep them in 27 quart Sterilite containers I bought from Walmart for less than $6. I will be able to keep them in these enclosure for another year or two. So you see you do not have to break the bank to get into chondros. My last advice is to continue to self-educate even after you get one to always stay abreast of the latest developments/findings/realizations of chondro keeping.

 
Assisted Answer 5/23/2013 12:15:41 PM

JohnR

ProProducts have the best heat panels. http://www.pro-products.com/  call Bob and tell him what size cage you have and the temp of the room.

You can go with a tub like the other say for that age. But I would think by age 2 you will want to move it into a display cage. And once you do get one, they are addicting!

Do NOT buy a sexed one that's under 1 year old and depending on the weight, I would even say under 2. Tad has some excellent ones for sale at great prices.  Tad even keeps his in tubs, so you can talk to him about that too.

You will need a thermostat. Herpstats are the best. http://spyderrobotics.com/

If you are going to spend the money on a chondro ($300 on the very low end but more than likely $400-500), then don't skimp on the equipment. you can get some nice cages here: http://www.pvccages.com/new/

 
Member Comment 5/23/2013 12:21:28 PM

JohnR

and almost forgot. Register here and read http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/directory#.UZ5BYaJOPpI

That's THE place for chondro information

 
Member Comment 5/23/2013 10:17:45 PM

aaron

Cooler temps for sure, daily misting is overrated. During sheds, for sure, but they don't need to be kept wet. Make sure the cage dries out every day. What everyone said about screened tops is correct, they CAN work, but for your first one, I would go with a PVC or melamine cage, something that keeps heat and humidity in well.

Great advice all around though. You guys rock.

 
Member Comment 6/7/2013 11:59:51 AM

Cenobite

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