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Q: Animal Plastics PVC Cages
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NimbusPrime

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Bagheera

I'm looking into buying some PVC cages from Animal Plastics. I am interested in getting some feedback from other people who have bought products from them. I am looking at replacing the glass tanks that I have right now. My main problems with the glass tanks are that they're heavy, don't hold heat well, are terrible with humidity, and I want to upgrade my herps to bigger tank sizes.

So, I was looking at the PVC cages and Animal Plastics seems to have good prices and I've heard nothing but good things about them. But I'm looking for some first hand accounts or any other recommendations that are out there.

What I really want to know is how heavy the tanks are compared to glass tanks, or just as a general scale. I already have a rack I keep my tanks on, but its fairly high and I don't want to have huge heavy tanks on a high rack. Also, I am moving around a lot as I work and go to school so I want to make sure the tanks aren't going to be a huge hassle to move around.

Also, I want to know how well the heating elements that are available from AP are any good. Are they the best to use with their other products or do other UTH work? Currently I use Zoo Med heat mats with a switch dimmer and probe as well as infrared thermometers to keep the temps where I want. Can I still used my switch dimmers with the Flexwatt heating that is offered by AP? Or would I need to get a thermostat?

Any input would be so helpful. Thank you.



Points: 100
Topics: Caging , Caging Plans
Tags: Animal, Cages, Plastics, PVC, Tanks, Upgrades
Species: Pythons > Pythons > Python regius
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Accepted Answer 2/23/2014 4:45:15 AM

abi21491

I have several AP racks and 1 AP cage (T8 model) and I love it all. The T8 is very light compared to an aquarium but since it is 4x2 it is hard to carry by yourself just because of the awkward size. The quality is great. I use flexwatt for my snakes so I can't really give an opinion on whether or not a heat pad is strong enough to heat through the cages. 

 
Assisted Answer 2/23/2014 7:43:30 AM

Hyp81
PVC cages are very light but the 4' x2' size is large enough to need two people to move it. Have had issues w Flexwatt not heating enough- had to boost the thermostats to like 95 or more just to get it to heat close to 85 inside. Hold humidity super well- but not well ventilated for desert species like beardies. The lights inside add a lot of heat so be cautious. Without inside lights these cages are very dark. Last- they are stackable so you won't need your rack. I just sold my last AP cage yesterday to go back to glass- I don't need to move them too much and 20L's are easy enough to carry. Better visibility. I like that. Just going to add shed boxes when required to help w humidity.
 
Member Comment 2/23/2014 10:32:22 AM

Cenobite

I have cages from 3 different manufacturers and hands down I love the AP's the best. I have RHP's in all of mine except for 2 which are heated by Ultratherm heat pads and they aren't even on a thermostat. The Zoomed UTH's are crap IMHO. Ultratherms are cheap, safe and yes can be used to provide belly heat for a pvc cage.

 
Assisted Answer 2/23/2014 12:39:02 PM

iamkinch
I love the AP cages. I have two already and one on the way. They are really light, but, like other folks said, you'd need another person just because of the awkwardness. Their customer service is top notch as well.
 
Assisted Answer 2/23/2014 2:33:23 PM

Sonja K. Reptiles

You could always disassemble the AP cages if needed for moving. 

 
Assisted Answer 2/23/2014 3:52:10 PM

NWHeather

I have AP racks and cages, and I love them!

I got two of the T10's fairly recently, and yes they are awkward because of their size, but they are light. I moved both of them (one at a time) from my living room to the reptile room by myself.

They have outstanding customer service!

The turnaround time is long, but if you plan accordingly, and order before they are needed, you will be fine.

 
Member Comment 2/23/2014 4:26:58 PM

Cenobite

The T8's are a "quick ship" item and can get to you in a couple of weeks. Otherwise, yeah the lead times are a pain so like Heather said plan accordingly. 

The customer service. Holy crap. I can't speak highly enough about that. Ali is AMAZING.

 
Assisted Answer 2/23/2014 9:02:08 PM

Big Sarge
I will echo that Ali with AP is AMAZING. I have a couple of their racks. Yes the lead time is LONG. But they have earned my repeat business if I need more racks. I have a couple of PVC Cages that I love. If I had to compare the two companies based on my limited experience I would say I like Jim's faster turnaround better and shipping is included in the listed price.
 
Member Comment 2/24/2014 8:12:01 AM

Hyp81

Also will add that customer service is awesome. With our cages, they sent us cage tops without cutouts for the light cords the first go-round. We called and the new cage tops were at our door within a week.

 
Assisted Answer 2/24/2014 5:31:48 PM

kid007inplay

I don't have any AP cages, but heard only good things about them.  I have Visions, Boaphile, Constrictors NW cages (total of 14) for my boas, and I personally like the Constrictors NW the best.  If you are considering your first plastic enclousure, you should look into Boaphile and Constrictors NW as well.  

No assembly required for Boaphile and 421d (4x2x1) is very light at 25 lbs.  Constrictors NW 4ft caging has 14" height and that extra couple of inches makes a big difference during cleaning. It's has a shelving option for only $35 and that extra real estate is beneficial for my boas.  It's also made out of HDPE plastic which is easy to clean and more safe for your animals.  It's twice as heavy at 45 lbs and I believe it's the same with AP T10 cage.  Assembly is required for both Constrictors NW and AP, but it's pretty simple.

I use 11x23" ultratherm pads for all my cages with a thermostat.  IMO, thermostat is a must to control any heat source for your enclosures.  There are many out there, but most experienced keepers will recommend Herpstat. I also have couple of hydrofarm thermostats and used them without any issues.  

If you are planning to use your current rack/table, as long as the dimensions are bigger than the cage, it should be fine.  

There is no such thing as perfect caging, but any professionally made plastic cage will be better than your current glass tank.  Good luck.  

Just for fun, here is my current set up in my basement :)

 

 
Assisted Answer 2/24/2014 6:46:56 PM

gfx

AP cages here, all heated with RHP. I hate Flexwatt, especially when hidden within a cage wall. How do you inspect that potential fire hazard? No thanks.

Not a fan of Boaphile, their customer service totally sucks and the 10" cage height is just too short. Their heat panels are weird too. I have not taken mine off, but I would not be shocked if it's flexwatt in there. The lack of ventilation is an issue, I had to add vents. They also sag when they're in a stack and the dropdown door will warp over time, so it's hard to close. I've picked up a couple second hand for cheap, but would never buy one new. I do like the hardware, but that's about it.

I've heard good and bad about Constrictors NW. Don't like the doors, don't like the hardware, so I've not tried them. I do like the material and the customer service is probably good.

I hate the lead time on AP, but it's well worth the wait IMO.

 

That mancave is sweet! :)

 
Member Comment 2/24/2014 6:54:58 PM

Cenobite

I will say this about Constrictors NW: The customer service is outstanding and the dovetail cut they use make for a STURDY ass cage. This thing is stiff like a pool boy at Julies house.

The door though. Holy hell the door sucks. And the hardware (as previously mentioned) keeping the door closed can suck it also.

AP without a doubt. 

 
Assisted Answer 2/24/2014 7:00:10 PM

gfx

I've seen people mention sag and sharp corners on the older CNW cages. Some ads I've seen for used CNW clearly show the sag. Not surprising with the material, AP really nailed the design with that center support piece. Speaking of, I thought that center piece would totally screw with my OCD, but it is totally a non-issue. T8s and T10s for me. I would have mostly T10s, but I get the T8s because I hate to wait.

 
Member Comment 2/24/2014 7:06:58 PM

Cenobite

I agree. The AP design is outstanding.

 
Member Comment 3/18/2014 9:15:40 AM

Cenobite

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Assisted Answer 6/3/2014 4:56:44 AM

JellyFish72

Since this question is still open, I'm going to go ahead and chime in real quick.

We have a T8 and absolutely adore it. The only recommendation I would make is make sure you're getting the new LED light option - we have the older lights that just snap into place, and one of our BPs learned how to take it down. He only escaped that way once, but he decided he preferred it with the light down so he would have it down by the time we turned our backs from putting it back up. We finally had to modify it to be permanently attached to the enclosure.

Nothing to contribute about heating though - we have the perfect combination of factors where we're living at the moment to make our best option a space heater. :-/

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