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Q: Ball Python care concerns
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Ayleth

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BallPython

I was just surprised with/gifted a baby(?) ball python. Not sexed yet and I haven't the slightest on it's age (was recieved last night). I intend to get this information this weekend or the next from the original shop it was bought from.

 

I used to previously own a corn snake, so I set up a temporary cage for this little guy. Currently it has eco-earth in it, two hides, and a water dish in an enclosure like this: 

this is NOT my tank.. just example image

this is NOT my tank.. just example image

 

I do not have a heat lamp or UTH hooked up at the moment, but the ambient temp inside is roughly 80 and about 85% humidity.

 

I honestly would prefer to move my snake to a glass tank due to the fact that I can observe and keep an eye on it better. (I have a cat that has figured out how to move sliding glass doors.....)

 

Here are my questions:

How do you feel about Eco-earth for balls? I read somewhere that aspen was bad but have seen plenty of people use it... Recommendations on that as well?
For my old corn, I honestly preferred coco-husk but that was also in part to him being a snow and it allowed me to see him better as he was a burrower.

For heating, I have a heating lamp with a red bulb, however I've read that this is a no for ball pythons and everyone seems to use UTH instead. Is there a reason for this? Why is UTH better than bulb? Will using a bulb be terribly bad?

Last and somewhat related to the last question:

I've read that UTH is recommended because it warms the ground not above, as balls aren't baskers. But the entire time this little snake has been in the current enclosure, he has been on top of the hides, hanging out. Is this abnormal, or could it indicate something is wrong, or is he just a silly little snake?

 

Thanks for all of the help. I have many questions due to the fact that corn snakes are native in my area so caring for that snake in the past wasn't too tedious or specialized.


Points: 150
Topics: General Health , Caging , Heating
Tags: Ballpython, Enclosure, Feeding, Heating, Tank
Species: Pythons > Pythons > Python regius
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Member Comment 8/21/2014 11:57:59 AM

Elexus H

how are you measuring the humidity? 85% is too high for a bp. I only reccomend humidity holding substrates (ecoearth/coco husk) for bps in glass tanks since aquariums with screen tops don't hold humidity well. If the snake is in a cage like the one in the pic, then aspen is probably needed because those cages hold humidity better than aquariums. bps should have ~50% humidity... bumped up to around 70% when shedding.... Aspen is a good substrate, its not toxic like cedar and pine and can pass through a snakes system without much trouble. 

If you're going to keep the ecoearth in the vision type cage, you can use a lamp but only as supplemental heat as your silly snake will probably hide somewhere while it digests food = you need belly heat. If you're set on moving your snake to a screen top aquarium, do not use a lamp unless you have a way to keep the humidity up (lamps suck out humidity). When you have no humidity => stuck sheds => missing scales/tail/deformities etc...

 

Sorry my response is all over the place :P

Also, try to find a lock for the vision type cage. IMO, that cage is better suited for a bp than an aquarium and once your bp fully settles in, you're hardly ever going to see the snake (except for when it's hungry) since they're nocturnal pet rocks who live in termite mounds... a few more clear walls won't really help you observe more than what you're already seeing lol...

 
Author Comment 8/21/2014 12:08:51 PM

Ayleth

Elexus: Eco-earth is being used simply because the cutie was sprung on me and it was what I had left over at the time. I have a hygrometer somewhat like such to measure: 

 

When I had my corn, I started out using a lamp before I realized he didn't really need it, and I didn't have too much trouble with humidity and coco-husk. I would simply lay a hand towel or some of that eco carpet over the screen. The other reason I was thinking of moving to an aquarium was to provide some climbing opportunities as the place it came from said it seemed to enjoy doing such.

 
Author Comment 8/21/2014 12:10:34 PM

Ayleth

Sorry for the double post as well, but I was also worried that hte Eco-earth was too powdery. My boyfriend uses it for his female Retic, and she seems to always have a dirty nose from snuffling around.

 
Member Comment 8/23/2014 1:08:36 AM

Elexus H
I would look into getting a digital hygrometer since analogs are notoriously inaccurate. If you feel as if you can maintain the humidity on a glass tank, then go ahead. I personally keep all of my ball pythons in Sterilite storage tubs because I cannot control the humidity well in the 8 different glass tanks I have. I think cornsnakes do better in glass tanks that ball pythons just from observation... I wouldn't worry about impaction with EcoEarth unless the snake eats multiple mouthfulls.. My blood python would occasionally eat some dirt when I fed him (because he was too fancy to eat on a plate) but he passed everything fine. I would mist the EcoEarth just so dust doesn't get caught in the snake's nose. If you're adamant on switching substrate, use coco-husk... Like I said, if you're keeping the snake in the cage pictured, use a drier substrate like aspen, sani-chips etc... Stay away from walnut shells, cedar, sand, and pine... They are all bad
 
Member Comment 8/26/2014 11:34:20 AM

Cenobite

Use aspen.

 
Member Comment 8/27/2014 9:51:54 AM

SideShowMom

I know Lowe's carries the sliding glass door locks, look where they have the mailbox locks and house numbers in Hardware.  I also like to use a mix of EcoEarth and aspen in my 20L tank. It has a UTH and I cover most of the screen top with glass panes that I can slide to adjust humidity and air flow.  Aside from the basic husbandry differences that the others mentioned and being nocturnal, they're sweet pets, I handle mine in the early morning or late evening.  Good luck with your baby!

 
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Cenobite

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