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What are the sexes of my corn snakes? Thanks for any positive feedback.
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Here are all the tail shots, top or side view and then ventral shots . I did my best with the photos. I just want honest for goodness opinions on what you all think what the sex of my snakes are. I know it's not going to be 100% accurate I just want yr best opinions. I'm posting on the iherp answers so that I may get some hopefully, a little bit better then the ones I have gotten on my blog posts. Thanks for any help. I do really appreciate it a lot.
Anjeanette
Diamond's tail shots....side view, top view and two ventral shots. Diamond is my only adult corn snake.
 
Here is my second corn snake Zoe 's tail shots. Top view, top-side view, and two ventral shots.
 
Okay folks, so here is Rose's tail shots.
 
Okay everyone here is Bindi's tail shots. I hope these give you a good clear picture of all their tails, and gives you a better chance at giving me a good opinion on what you all think they are. Again I really do appreciate it very much.
 
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8/4/2009 1:26:20 AM
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8/4/2009 1:44:12 AM
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gfx
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I don't think visual sexing is particularly accurate. If you must attempt it, each snake should be very close to the same weight, then compare to each other to see the difference. You're better off picking up a set of probes.
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8/4/2009 2:52:30 AM
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FieldTrialTrainer
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Julie I agree. But this has been posted so many times I figure maybe that little picture on how to might help, since she keeps on posting and people getting more and more annoyed with it. She knows it's not 100% accurate let alone any but keeps asking
I agree.... pick up a set of probes, have someone teach you. Attend a herp show and meet someone if the local shops are useless.
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Author Comment
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8/4/2009 6:52:10 AM
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anjeanettecorns28
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You know, I thought this website was supose to be helpful and friendly and all that good stuff when it came to asking questions about herps. Am I not right about that for the most part? Isn't that what iherp is partly about is helping each other with things that you might not know about yrself? But I've had such a hard time just asking a question and not everyone but some have really given me a hard time. I know that visually sexing is not the best route to go and I know it's not 100% accurate but I still wanted others opinions on what they thought my corn snake sexes were. You know I know it can be done if you have a trained eye for it, because I sent Kathy Love and her husband the same photos I've posted on here on the iherp answers and they gave me their opinions on what they thought they were, so all I really wanted was to have some more opinions from those of you on here that have had corn snakes and dealt with them longer then I have to just give me your best shot to see if the results were the same to Kathy and Bill Love's opinion. Thats all I'm asking for is yr best shot-opinion.
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8/4/2009 7:40:19 AM
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vonnick52
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There is nothing wrong with asking questions, but most of us have spent MONTHS if not YEARS researching and learning on our own. And sometimes people don't bother doing any research on their own.
If you wrote Kathy Love and got her opinion, what does our opinion matter anyways? She is top-notch when it comes to colubrids as far as I know...she is the biggest authority.
Many of us view this hobby as more of a science than anything...and in science, no one wants to be wrong. If a method is inaccurate, people are going to be hesitant to commit their opinion for fear of putting out bad information...hence everyone telling you to do it the right way. If you really want to know the sex of your snakes, you're going to have to cough up the 10 or 20 bucks for a probe kit.
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8/4/2009 8:27:51 AM
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constrictorman
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the only stupid question is one that doesnt get asked.she is trying to learn and the only way to do that is ask questions no matter how basic.And she is only asking for an opinion not fact.so cut her some slack.Best guess diamond =male zoe=female rose= male bindi= female. hope that helps
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8/4/2009 9:31:12 AM
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JohnJohn
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That's a really cool picture comparing snake butts. I've read that some people believe that they can tell the difference, even though probing is certainly more accurate. If that pic and paragraph came from Kathy Love then it's worth our consideration. She is certainly the best authority on corn snakes. I can definitely see a difference in the first three snakes in that picture, but the fourth one is kindof hard to tell. That is very cool though. I'm going to go home and line up all my snakes' butts to have look! That will probably piss them off though.
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8/4/2009 9:36:06 AM
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JohnJohn
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Based on this method, regardless of accuracy, I would say Diamond = male and Zoe = female, but the others seem hard to call. Maybe it's easier with the more grown adults. I learned last year that my "female", Speedy, is actually a male. I caught him in the act. It will be very interesting no for me to go home and have a close look at his tail.
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8/4/2009 9:40:09 AM
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Carusima
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With corns, you can't really tail sex. My male is a VERY obvious male, as his tail is a good 4-5 inches long. But my two females still have tails that could be coincided with males. Tail length is usually for snakes like garters or ribbons, because then there is a visual certainty of male vs female. I've spoken with Kathy Love on several occasions as well, and even they know you can't visually sex corns. Kings and Corns, as well as most snakes, need to either be popped or probed. If you don't have the money, or are too fearful of learning how to probe, you can easily find a reptile store who will do it for you. That way you are 100% sure, especially if you are housing together (No M X F or M x M).
I understand why some people get aggressive with it. It's the same as people asking "What is a Blood python?" (For example) and then everyone has to explain what it is when that person could of just googled it like any normal person and saved the hassle. I get that all the time on my forum and it's just annoying. And in this case, it's honestly that you need to do the research and watch someone pop or probe. Even Kathy Love has popping and probing on her site that you can watch over and over until you get it.
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Accepted Answer
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8/4/2009 9:42:06 AM
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Carusima
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Comparatively, if I have to guess based on my corns (And I breed) #1 and #4 are males, and #2 and #3 are females.
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8/4/2009 10:34:22 AM
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Kingsnake King
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I d guess male, male, female and female all colubrids can be visually sexed when they are older but as babies you can pop them easily. and i agree the only stupid question is the one that doesant get asked. Dont for get everyone needs help from time to time. As responsible reptile keepers we all should help whenever we can. I love getting phone calls about snakes and helping people breed and just keep their animals healthy.......
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8/4/2009 10:40:19 AM
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JohnJohn
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Ditto Constrictorman and Kingsnake King. The only stupid question is the one that doesn't get asked. We should never discourage anyone from asking questions. More people should ask questions.
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Author Comment
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8/4/2009 6:50:38 PM
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anjeanettecorns28
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Thanks to everyone that has given me their opinions. Like I said though I really just wanted yr opinions and I do know that even Kathy Love and Bill love said their opinions were just their best guess but not 100% and that is fine with me. I wasn't asking anyone on here to give me a 100% accurate answer because I know that is a very hard thing to do with corn snakes and most other snakes as well from what I understand. However, I do appreciate it never the less because right now with the situation that I am in I just don't have a way to get to a vet who is trained to sex my snakes for me, or to pay for one to do it for me. I don't even have a way to go to a reptile show on my own and don't know anyone else close by to where I live that might be going up there themselves, that could take me. I'm just not in a good position right now to do any of that stuff. I'm not yr typical young lady well, almost 30 yrs old in another year. I don't have friends, or relatives that I am close to or live by that can help me out. That's the truth. So I just wanted to get the best that I can for the moment which is other people's opinions. I've gotten a couple of different results so far but I think about two or thee that are the same. And two that were different then the rest. But it's all good. Kathy Love and Bill love guessed that Diamond and Bindi 1, 4 were males and that 2 and 3 were females, although they did say that they were not too sure about 3 which is Rose. But that is what their guess was. I think JohnJohn gave me the same results with his opinion for at least Diamond and Zoe at least, and Carusima also gave me the same results as Kathy and Bill love did. I just want to say thanks again for all the help.
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Author Comment
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8/4/2009 8:28:20 PM
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anjeanettecorns28
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Also wanted to add that if the length of the tail is at all important in determining male or female I took the measurements of all my snakes tail lengths and this is what I got.... Diamond is my oldest and biggest corn snake his/her tail is 8 inches long from cloaca to tail tip. Zoe and Rose who are the two that are the same size and age both have 4 1/2 inch tail lengths. And Bindi my youngest and smallest corn snake has a 4 inch length tail from cloaca to tail tip. Zoe and Rose might be a month or two apart in age but very close and also very close in size. But they had the same length in their tails. Hopefully, that helps in those who have not posted on here yet. Thanks.
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8/4/2009 8:32:45 PM
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MegF
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Diamond: Male Zoe: I'm thinking female but hard to tell. Rose: Female Bindi: Female.....subject to change without notice!
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8/4/2009 8:36:35 PM
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Author Comment
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8/5/2009 10:46:57 AM
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anjeanettecorns28
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Okay so these are the results I have gotten so far. I know that I have more votes on Diamond in total and an extra vote on Zoe as well. This is what we have all determined by putting votes together:
Diamond has gotten 7 votes on being Male, 1 vote on being female
Zoe has gotten 6 votes for being female, and 1 vote for being male
Rose has gotten 4 votes on being female, and 2 votes for being male
Bindi has a tie with 3 votes male , 3 votes female.
There I have it....lol. Anyway I appreciate all the input that I have gotten in the end. This does help at least I can say with more confidence then before what sex they probably are. Not really sure on Bindi since I have gotten a mix vote on him/her. But I'm thinking I'll go with male for Bindi. Unless, someone else votes for Bindi being a female and breaks off the tie vote. Anyhow, I know these results aren't 100% but at least it give me a better idea. Thanks everyone for your help.
Anjeanette
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Author Comment
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9/23/2009 1:27:32 PM
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anjeanettecorns28
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Well, I don't know if those of you who have given me their guesses on what my snakes where whants to know what they really came out to be as I have had them sexed finally on August 30, 2009 when I was up at the Mid-west Reptile show in Indy. Diamond ended up being a female....although Diamond got the most male votes on here, she is a girl. Zoe got most votes for being female which is correct. Zoe is also a female. Rose, I will never find out what Rose is actually. Cause Rose is no long with me. Bindi is a male, and when got voted on he had three ties of male and female votes. My new baby Kasper even though did not officially have any votes, is also a male corn snake. So I have two females who are the older ones, and two very young males. And unfortunately, I probably and most likely will never find my Rose. Although, I still have a little bit of hope left.
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