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Q: How Important is Heat (Colubrids)
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Leiren

Do I really need a heating pad for all my snakes even if my house is 74-80 all the time? I understand there are musts for certain species as far as heating goes,but if its just like colubrids do they really all each need a special heating pad?


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Topics: General Health , Caging , Heating
Tags: Colubrid, General, Heating, Temperature
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Member Comment 11/6/2009 1:14:41 PM

FyreFocks
I personally dont use extra heat, but im special. It does help your animals to have a hot and not so hot side. They like having a choice.
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 1:29:46 PM

GarbrechtRE
I've heard of alot of colubrid breeders just heating the room for northern hemisphere snakes. I think it works better for nocturnal snakes because they aren't normaly found basking during the day. Either way I give my kingsnakes no extra heat with no problems.
 
Author Comment 11/6/2009 1:32:09 PM

Leiren
yeah I have my guys in critter keepers and I have 10 gallon zoo med heating pads wedged between the two so they're sharing both sides,but my milksnake has gone without it before with no problems. I'm really cold natured myself so my house is never below 70,ever so im really pondering if I should keep blowing money on all these heating supplies?
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 2:10:17 PM

Darkdazeys
I personally don't use a heating pad. I do, however, heat up the entire room with a ceramic heater whenever I see that the temperature is below 80 degrees. Helps a lot and it fools my snake into thinking that it's not winter, so she eats. :D
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 2:35:59 PM

Sylvias
I don't use heat pads either, but it really depends on the snake, even if it is a colubrid. Some colubrids require specialized care as well. My snakes get the natural changes of florida weather, never above 80 and very rarely below 65...luckily on those 2 or 3 days it does drop below 60 my cat makes himself a heater and lays up against the snake cages lol
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 2:58:18 PM

shellboa
I use heated racks (NOT hot rocks!!), but here in the northwest my unused rooms can drop into the 50s. The heat cord for the rack doesn't draw much power for me. In the "bonus room" i have a few that have no heat pads...the golden gecko and the florida garter for example, oh and the crestie of course. The veiled has a red night heat light but no pad and my rubber boas are n the chill room with no heat at all. They are native around here so they like it.
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 6:03:00 PM

Sony Raju
wow thats nuts. i wouldnt even think about housing reptiles of any sort without heating elements.  maybe im wierd, but ive always thought they provided basking sites, as well as a mechanism to get the animals metabolism going.  so yes i think heat is very much a need.
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 6:14:03 PM

FyreFocks
Sony, Sony, Sony, please, let the experts handle this one, ok?

Just run along back to your carpets.
 
Accepted Answer 11/6/2009 6:47:56 PM

Carusima
I breed (Or have bred) several types of coloubrids, and "heat" itself is necessary but a heating pad or lamp is not. I have a walk in closet that houses about 20 coloubrids, and various other snakes, and I just heat the room to 80 during the day using a small heater, then letting it fall at night. All of mine are in the tub system since I have over 40 snakes. You CAN have a rack systems with heat tape on one side, which is also good for them, but coloubrids are just fine without the belly heat on one side of the enclosure. Just make sure the temperature doesn't flux too much, such as 80 and then it drops to the 60s. You still need to keep it atleast 75 for them to digest, preferably 80.
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 6:49:17 PM

Carusima
Sony, you don't own any coloubrids. What you have, the carpets, do need a range of heat sources and humidity. Corns and Kings do not.
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 7:14:36 PM

Sony Raju
well excuse me! ill leave this one for the experts like nate...pfft
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 7:16:09 PM

FyreFocks
Youre damn right you will!

If you wanna feel smarter than me, go to MVF. You got me beat hands down.
 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 7:25:31 PM

Sony Raju

Dear Bacon @ss,

While I dont particularly have all that much experience with colubrids, with not nearly ass much experience ass you, all of the colubrid keepers I know in Texas, do use heat tape and heating lamps for all of their colubrids, and they have been successfully breeding them for decades,  I know because I have gone and helped them out when they had issues or needed help of one sort or another.

I'm guessing then that by these answers I am seeing, there is more than one way to skin a deer!:)

Yours truly,

The Professional MVFer

 
Member Comment 11/6/2009 11:51:25 PM

Lashman

Heat? Yes proper heat is needed. No heating pads are not needed, unless they are the heat source. Bottom line is meeting the needs of the snake (animal). There are many ways to do that and I believe it's what works best for you and snake.
 Most colubrids don't require high heat so most household temps will support them.  That's why I tell people that although I recommend a dome light with just a household bulb for heat and light that they will survive in the house as you will freeze ( no not litteraly) before killing snake per cold. I know mine are happy as they are healthly, active and have 100% hatch rate.
 Snakes are cold blooded so proper heat is important. How that heat is provided is not. Though doing it safely is important!

 
Member Comment 11/7/2009 2:19:55 AM

GarbrechtRE
Do I get the 100 points for this? Daddy needs a new pair of shoes LOL
 
Member Comment 11/7/2009 1:06:19 PM

zachrfields

Colubrids should be fine at room temperature as long as it stays in the range that you said. Being from America Corn snakes , Kings, and MIlks, dont need heat as long as the room temperature is around 75- 80 degrees.

 
Member Comment 11/7/2009 1:07:38 PM

zachrfields
Some breeders dont even keep Colubrid eggs in an incubator.
 
Assisted Answer 11/7/2009 8:40:00 PM

MegF

Even with temps around 80, I usually provide a warm spot of 82-85.  While you can get by with 80 I think you might occasionally have problems with temps in the 70's.  That said, cornsnakes and the like seem to get by pretty well on just about anything.  They digest in low 70's and even down into the upper 60's so it can be done no problem.  Mine do utilize the warm side on occasion though, so I think it's a good idea to provide it for them so they can make a choice of optimum temperatures for them.  And I do not use an incubator for cornsnake eggs.  I just keep them in the snake room and let them go.

 
Author Comment 11/7/2009 9:08:46 PM

Leiren
I'm giving Sony the points just  cause he said "bacon ass".
 
Member Comment 11/7/2009 9:11:27 PM

FyreFocks
Do i get points for being bacon ass?
 
Member Comment 11/7/2009 10:05:49 PM

Sony Raju
no nate, you just get fried and given to her doggies.
 
Assisted Answer 12/23/2009 3:14:12 PM

Triangle Reptiles
I keep kings, milks corns and western hognose.  I use a rack system and keep the warm side at 86 with a night drop to 78.  I find that the warmer temp keeps them more active, eating more regularly and growing faster.  While they can certainly survive at room temp, I find they are usually less active and feed less.  This is more true with the western hogs than kings and milks.  You have to consider their natural habitat and try to match it.  Fla kings like it hot, montane milks cooler.  Western hogs do great in the mid 90's even( for a hot side).  They really do best obviously when they can thermoregalate by choosing between different temps. 
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