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eastern indigo snake
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Just curious about eastern indigo snakes, Ive had corns/ball etc etc, was looking for a new snake, one that can be handled, has a good despostion, and isnt a pet rock (cough cough ball pythons) ;) if anyone has some suggestions about other snakes, or this species in general it would be gladly accepted!
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9/25/2011 7:49:36 PM
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natsamjosh
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I have an eastern indigo snake. They are amazing snakes that seem to have no fear of humans, which makes them easy to handle. I've never fully trusted any snake to not bite me (or anyone else,) except for indigos. If you want a snake that is fun to interact with and has a lot of "personality," indigos are great. On the downside, they eat a lot and thus crap a lot, which is something to consider. (You might be cleaning up toxic waste every 3 to 4 days.) They also require larger enclosures than boids, since they are more active. As far as diet, some owners feed an all rodent diet. Personally, I like to feed a much more natural, varied diet (lizards, fish, frogs, rabbit pinks, quail, etc.), and I'd love to feed him snakes if I had access to "dead on road" snakes. Anyway, if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.
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9/25/2011 8:12:21 PM
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Chad A Edwards
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Indigos may be big and expensive, but they are well worth it. They have very unique personalities. To me, the only downside is the mess, but even that is worth it to keep them.
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9/25/2011 9:59:27 PM
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Sylvias
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To me the only down side is the cost, but i don't have mine yet so i don't know the ture horrors of the mess :P
Awesome snakes but LOTS of moneys and LOTS of paperworks if you don't happen to have a breeder in your state...
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9/25/2011 11:08:46 PM
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natsamjosh
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I didn't find the paperwork to be too bad. (I live in NC and bought my indigo from a breeder in Connecticut.) Don't get me wrong, it was annoying and a little confusing, but an experienced seller will help you through the process. For anyone who's not familiar with the Federal law, one has to get an interstate commerce permit to buy an eastern indigo from a seller/breeder that lives out of state. Not sure if it's gone up, but when I bought mine 4 years ago the permit was $100. Some states have laws as well. If you live in Florida or Georgia, from what I hear it's virtually impossible for a private citizen to get permission to own one.
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9/25/2011 11:14:03 PM
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SapphireTigress
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I'm getting a pair in the next few years, i'm willing to deal with poo to have some of these incredible snakes!
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9/26/2011 12:05:31 AM
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Catre
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I would check with fish and wildlife because from what I know the snakes are actually endangered so you have to have a license for one. Look up I am not sure but here where I live everyone has said you need one.I have looked into getting a breeding pair
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9/26/2011 5:44:59 AM
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bsharrah
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I have consider these for years. For a pet, I say go for it. For a breeding project....not so much. There are only so many out there in captivity and no new blood is coming in. It is only a matter of time before those available will be inbred to the point that they shouldn't be bred. A concern already weighing on the minds of current breeders.
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9/26/2011 5:49:38 AM
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bsharrah
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FYI - if you decide to add one to your collection, contact Robert Bruce, a breeder in CA. He has a good rep and you wouldn't need to deal with the paperwork.
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9/26/2011 10:18:35 AM
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magnum_levine
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I live in California, didnt know that there was paper work involved ;(. but I am very intertested in the snake, so it will probably be worth it. I see them at expos in so cal all the time, and they are always catching my eye, they always have that calm, calculating demenor. what would my cage requirements be? available right now to me, I have a 4x2x2 cage, I think that may be on the small side for an adult. if theres any suggestions on other snakes plz let me know!!! (money isnt a issue btw)
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Accepted Answer
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9/26/2011 11:06:08 AM
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natsamjosh
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You can probably get an indigo from a breeder/seller that is located in California. I don't think any paperwork is required. if you do that. (The Interstate Commerce permit is for sales across state lines.) I'd recommend a minimum of 6' x 2' x 2' for an adult indigo, but I think a 4' x 2' x 2' is okay if you take them out often. If I had more space I'd keep mine in a taller cage as well, give him some climbing branches.
As far as recommending other snakes, it's tough to narrow that down without knowing you and given that money is not an issue. There are a lot of species out there! I can only speak for myself, but if I had unlimited funds and unlimited space (and disposition/tractability is a factor,) I'd probably check out (in no particular order):
- Boelen's python
- Bredl's python (and other carpet pythons)
- Diamond python
- Burmese python
- Angolan python
- Woma python
- Mainland rainbow boas
- Insular Epicrates
- The "red dominican mountain" boas are pricey, but the really red ones are pretty spectacular.)
- I'd also love to get a Cuban boa at some point.
- Boa constrictors
- Acrantophis sp. (Dumerils or Madagascar Ground boa) These species have a reputation of being quite docile.
- Black/Yellow Rat snake
There are many species of milk and king snakes that make good pets as well. Again, though, it's hard to make a short list without more information on your personal preferences, and I think that may be why you're not getting a lot of response.
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9/26/2011 4:44:32 PM
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magnum_levine
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well like i said i want something that i can hold and has a good deposition, most snakes i know are like that, but some can be more flight than others, and i have more experience with lizards, so your advice is great! a max of 10 feet is all i want right now for size, nothing that can get to big and outta control. and knowing me? lol im a noc shift person, i work 12 hrs a day, 4-5 days a week in a hospital, so a snake that can do without me picking it up and handling it everyday without becoming scittish when i do want to interact with it. but all these snakes you mentioned i will look up. when jan comes around ill be getting something, ill be sure to let you know :)
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