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Can the Carpets match the...
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...Chondros.... What? What did you think I was going to ask?? 
The Chondro guys have an excellent resource in Greg Maxwell's The More Complete Chondro. I love the look of all the Carpet Pythons I see on here, but I don't know a thing about them aside from what they are called, and roughly what part of the world they are from. What references would any of you guys consider key for Carpet Pythons? Are there any?
Where should I start looking to learn the important differences between the localities/subspecies? Does husbandry differ greatly with subspecie?
Finally, if there are any great references on these guys, is there anything important that is not commonly covered that any of you have found useful?
Thanks guys
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11/23/2008 10:22:38 PM
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ChrisMontgomery
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the best resource i know of is www.moreliapythons.com/forums these guys are the very most bestest and can be very polite. i always got the answer i need when i asked.
as for general advise... i would tell you to be picky and wait until you see THE animal you want. if you want a jungle, get a good one. if you want an irian jaya, get a good one... etc.
i really think carpets are a great step up from balls. you would do well to research them. if you come up with any specific questions, i'll give you my two cents :)
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11/23/2008 11:19:15 PM
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FyreFocks
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Im so glad someone asked this question.
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11/24/2008 12:53:37 AM
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11/24/2008 7:58:29 AM
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dalvers63
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For a book, I can't recommend enough the first Pythons of the World book by Dave and Tracy Barker. I think it is out of print now (though they may have one or two hanging around). It lists all of the pythons of Australia with details on size, habitat, keeping and breeding. Another good book is "Keeping and Breeding Australian Pythons" edited by Mike Swan. It contains articles on most of the Aussie pythons by the breeders themselves. Keep in mind that this book was produced in Australia so you'll need to bone up on your metric system. You can find this one at the Bean Farm (and a few other places): http://www.beanfarm.com/store/agora.cgi?cart_id=1373106.13899&p_id=12073&xm=on
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11/24/2008 9:50:33 AM
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manunited1
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Like Chris says, moreliapyhtons.com is great. Also carpetpythons.net is pretty informative. Most of the best Carpet breeders are on these two forums. Most of the genera have the same husbandry. Except for the Diamond pyhton which takes cooler temps to maintain. The Bredls python can also tolerate some lapses in husbandry care, they are a very hardy python.
The Reproductive Husbandry of Pythons and Boas. by Richard A. Ross. Is a good all round book that can tell you about basic care and riquirements for breeding each species.
Hope this helps.
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11/24/2008 12:20:48 PM
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JohnJohn
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There was a nice article about Carpet Pythons in Reptile magazine about 6 months ago.
Carpets are awesome. They have it all, perfect size, great personality, and really beautiful. I like coastals best!.
I'm waiting for my pair to show some interest in breeding. This year is my first try at pairing them up. It's still a little early, but I'm anxious!
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11/24/2008 2:25:19 PM
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Blueisola
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You have been given some great leads on where to find some good, solid information about carpets. Forum wise there is a wealth of sound knoweledge on moreliapythons.com as has been stated, and "Keeping and Breeding Australian Pythons" is a must have resource for the serious carpet connoisseur. They are a fantastic and varied species to work with and I highly recommend them.
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11/25/2008 4:21:37 PM
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11/25/2008 10:02:07 PM
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FyreFocks
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Im glad im not the only one, Kai. I was lookin for the exact same thing.
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11/25/2008 10:15:26 PM
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amarilrose
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What?? 'Drapes'?? Why what ever would you think that for?? ;) Haha... I guess I know at least part of the audience here. Boys. Sheesh. :)
I thought I would keep this open until after the Holiday, as I know a few of the Carpet keepers are away from their internet connections to visit the fam. :) Thanks everyone else for your input so far.
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11/26/2008 3:23:44 AM
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bwaffa
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Hey Rebecca,
I have to second Deb on this one -- the Barkers' book is unparalleled in scope! Hope you're well. I'll holler soon!
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11/26/2008 4:33:59 AM
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amarilrose
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aw man, now I really have to get another expensive book... I am such a cheapskate, but I guess I have already been looking at it for a few years anyway... I can't wait 'til I make real money again!!
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11/26/2008 3:32:37 PM
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CnS Exotics
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From my understanding Carpets or atleast the majority come from Austrailia. I've been considering getting one since they don't get too too large compared to some of the other larger pythons out there Ie; Burms, Retics, Afrocks...
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11/26/2008 10:27:39 PM
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Chris Behof
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hands down best overall type of python that exists.....hardy, moderate sized, beautiful, tameable, etc., etc.....the list goes on and on!
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11/26/2008 10:29:11 PM
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Chris Behof
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here is the link to that good article from reptiles magazine....i for one have referenced it many times!
http://www.reptilechannel.com/snakes/snake-species/carpet-python.aspx?cm_sp=InternalClicks-_-RelatedArticles-_-snakes/snake-species/carpet-python
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11/26/2008 10:29:43 PM
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Chris Behof
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guess you will have to copy on paste it, i'm not sure how to hyperlink on the forum.
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11/28/2008 7:27:15 PM
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ap1fun
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Once you get into carpets its amazing! My best advice is screw the breeders. Nothing against hobbiest breeding or anything, be the ones who refer to carpets not from their lines or AC lines as inbreed. It really sets me off to see one downing someone else for having a cross. This is most common in carpets because the are from a small island and several of the locals overlap. Find something you really like and love it. jungles are typically yellow like Chris Behof's avatar. Coastals are a brown/gold color and get a little bigger. Irian Jayas are red tint and are the smallest. Bredli pythons are a subspecies and are intensely red and on the larger side of carpets. Diamonds are a dream! very hard to come by and super pricey. Google is your best friend. Add "care sheet" to anything you want and you'll get a good idea. Also, I'd like to steer you away from mice eating carpets. They are stubborn and you don't want a 8 foot snake eating mice!
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11/28/2008 7:57:40 PM
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dalvers63
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ap1fun said: "Bredli pythons are a subspecies and are intensely red and on the larger side of carpets"
Actually, Centralian or Bredl's pythons might not be carpets at all. They are not part of the M. spilota family, they're Morelia bredli. Because of their isolation from the rest of the population it's disputed as to whether they're that closely related to carpet pythons. Males will stay between 7and 8ft, females can get to 10 though it's rare. The nice thing though is that they don't get all that large around. A 9ft bredl's is a much smaller snake than a 9ft burm or retic.
As for those who like to keep their carpets pure, there's nothing wrong with it though it is a discussion for another post and not this one. I can see both sides and agree with both sides on certain points. In the end, get what you like and you'll be much happier.
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11/30/2008 7:03:49 PM
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marcos
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im going to have to agree with chris i would check out www.moreliapythons.com there are alot of people so called experts and long time breaders on there with a lot of knowlege
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1/10/2009 11:54:04 AM
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tmth
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Well, I don't have too much to add! There really isn't that many guides out there to carpet pythons. Anthony at ACReptiles has the best guide, imo. Links been provided already.
http://www.kyherpsoc.org/carpetpythonsprop.html This link is a guide on Propagating Carpet Pythons, but the first chunk of the page is about the different species and care. I don't agree with every single thing, but I've definitely found that carpets are pretty hardy and do not require very specific things.. otherwise I think mine would all be dead. XD
Coastals and Diamonds are the biggest subspecies out there. I have two pure coastals, and two 25% diamond/75% coastal. Carpets do have a rep for being nippy, but all of mine have settled down and I can handle them just fine. Some bit me only once (like Danu and Rhiannon) while others got me maybe a hundred times (Morrigan.. hence her name meaning 'Goddess of Death and Destruction'. Of course, Morrigan is now the best at being handled and hasn't bothered biting in a looong time.
The carpetpythons.net forum isn't extremely active but there is good information on there and if you have questions, they tend to get asked (regarding carpets, and of course it takes a few days...) Moreliapythons is very useful too.
As for morphs.. probably the most popular and well known would be the Jaguar morph. This is a co-dom trait that is lethal when homozygous-- from what I understand, if the babies hatch out they die shortly after. (which is quite depressing, as the homozygous is the leucistic coloring). 'Hypo' jags really are just jags with reduced coloring and the different types of jags are usually just variations. Jaguars go through a color change as well- babies are rather 'dull' but they brighten up quite a bit as they get older. Actually.. I'm pretty sure most all carpets go through color changes-- for the most part not nearly as dramatic as chondros, but still pretty awesome.
You can also have genetic striped/tiger carpets (and Jags can be striped as well). Recently there has been work to get some Albino carpet pythons, as well as a 'zebra' morph for Jungles. I've also seen 'ivory' jungles- not yellow, but pretty much pale white with black stripes. Will Bird has his 'citrus tiger' morph ---pictures not on website, but here http://www.carpetpythons.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1857. Granites.. axanthic.. there are a lot of different morphs. :)
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1/10/2009 10:41:17 PM
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amarilrose
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Hi everyone, thank you all very much for your input!! They are fascinating and are definitely working their way onto my someday list. So much to learn about them first!
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