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11/29/2008 4:09:50 PM
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11/29/2008 5:18:27 PM
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gfx
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I would 100% suggest you get an established animal from a chondro breeder rather than an unknown from a vendor at a show. There are tons of questions you'll want answered and having a relationship with a breeder will get you that 24/7 roadside assistance. There are some really nice chondros available on MVF for the same price that you'd find at a reptile show, do yourself a giant favor and buy from a breeder. I'd even go so far as to suggest a yearling rather than a neo, they're a bit more forgiving if you screw up a little bit. Go here: http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/forums/64/t/Morelia-Viridis-Classifieds.html
Beware: They're very, very addictive! :)
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11/29/2008 7:09:41 PM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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yea i checked all the breeders they got listed. any1 got any breeder that you think i should get from.
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11/29/2008 7:12:43 PM
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MegF
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Many reputable breeders sell at the shows. There were many at Daytona...the Chondro coalition is there every year. I'm sure it's the same in Hamburg as well. Know the local reputable breeders and try to buy from them. If there's nothing there, contact one when you get home.
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11/29/2008 7:56:56 PM
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Dave Prada-Komodo Reptiles is the only vendor that I recognize that breeds chondros. There could be a few more I am not too familiar with the Hamburg crew.
Are you in PA??
There are plenty of great chondros here http://moreliaviridis.yuku.com/forums/64
Buddy B
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11/29/2008 8:04:36 PM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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nah im in new york 2 hours away from hamburg. anybody no if colorodochondros is good?
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11/29/2008 8:13:03 PM
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Kim Heller
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ColoradoChondros is Jason Stevens. He is a 100% stand up guy. He does live in Colorado and has some nice animals for sale. Like everyone has said, and I had previously, go CBB from a reputable breeder. I mentioned Dan Schaeffer to you. He is usually at the show...just ask around and you'll find out if he is there.
Buddy, who has posted on this thread, has beautiful animalsavailable if I'm not mistaken. He is 100% without a doubt a person that would be perfect to get a Chondro from.
Please resist the urge to pick up a farmed/import at the show. They will be there, but that is not a good idea for a first Chondro.
kim
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11/29/2008 8:20:10 PM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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yea i definately dont want farmbreed i want to stay away for them thats why im tryin to build up a list of good breeders to look for when i get there
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11/29/2008 8:43:25 PM
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gfx
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I'd personally save the gas money and skip the show in favor of the MVF classified listings. Go through the ads on the first 3-5 pages and you should get a pretty good list of appealing snakes available in your price range. Going that route gives you plenty of time to fully investigate your choices and breeders, unlike the "buy it now or someone else will" pressure that you may feel at a show.
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11/29/2008 8:50:23 PM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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u think so i always felt iffy bout gettin a chondro shipped but i guess u mite be right ima check them out
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11/29/2008 9:01:08 PM
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BuddyB
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Jason Stevens has several clutches to pick from, stellar chondros, great prices and excellent customer service.
Kim sure knows how to make a guy blush....I several chondros available, but I won't be at Hamburg.
Maybe you should post on the chondro forum link that I supplied above and ask if any of the chondro folks attending could show you around and what you should avoid.
Good Luck
Buddy B
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11/29/2008 11:23:14 PM
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Ricky Ortiz
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well as for care would go before you make a purchase of your first GTP i highly recomend that you purchase and completly read The More Complete Chondro by Greg Maxwell its been a bible to me, and as for a reputable breeder ther are lots i highly recomend Mike from www.tooscaley.com also as mentioned already Rico Walder from www.signalherp.com
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11/29/2008 11:48:26 PM
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FyreFocks
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Jason from Coloradochondros has some hot babies on KS right now. You could also just check his site out. Ive spoken to him and he seems like a great person to deal with.
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11/30/2008 1:57:31 AM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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anybody here of ben seigel reptiles are they good?
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11/30/2008 2:54:54 AM
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amarilrose
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Read Rebecca Fowler's (FowlerHerps) blog from November 10th. She had a horrible experience with Ben Siegel!
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11/30/2008 3:40:39 AM
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11/30/2008 10:22:42 AM
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Kim Heller
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Everyone here has given you great advice. Why not get caging first, and then get your Chondro? Meg,Hamburg isn't like the major shows. There is some good stuff there, but lots of junk too. Not too many Chondroheads from the forums selling stuff.
Buddy has a very good point about posting over on MVF and asking. I am usually atall of the Hamburg shows, and if I was able to makeit to this one, I would have been happy to show you around.
Please think long and hard about the Chondro you get. You will see some really cheap prices at Hamburg, but vet bills you will incur for an unhealthy snake will make it not such a good deal after all.
Kim
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11/30/2008 12:54:53 PM
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gfx
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I totally agree with Kim. Spending an extra $100-$200 for the support and guidance of an experienced chondro breeder will be the best money you spend on this acquisition. You definitely want to get your cage set up and have it running for awhile so you can monitor the temps, etc before your animal arrives. These guys are just not that forgiving when it comes to mistakes. If it takes you past the holidays to have that extra money saved up, so be it, there's no reason to rush.
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11/30/2008 2:17:27 PM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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yea im plannin on not even pikin up anything at the hamburg show nemore just equipment so i keep the tank running and order my chondro from one of the website i seen on mvf.com
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11/30/2008 2:45:17 PM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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which bring me to my next question best way to house a chondro and heat them?
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11/30/2008 3:01:25 PM
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Ricky Ortiz
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Depends on what your getting, and how much you have to spend? If its a neo a rubbermaid tub with a couple of zoomed heat pads could work WITH a good thermostat and maybe digital therm. or two to make sure it is acurate. If its a adult/ subadult there are a varitey of cages out there from make it yourself to PVC cages such as www.repti-racks.com its really up to you what you wanna use or spend, as for heat I always try to use heat pannels whenever I can they are great.
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11/30/2008 8:13:14 PM
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aaron
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Hamburg is a great show, but I've definitely seen (and sady, gotten, RIP) some junk there.
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11/30/2008 8:55:13 PM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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yea after all the stuff i heard im turnt off about even going i think im just going to order one from colorodo chondros
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11/30/2008 8:59:13 PM
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FyreFocks
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Just because you dont want to pick up a chondro doesnt mean you shouldnt go. Its always a great show. Ill be there and hopefully venomous will show. Kim wont be there though.. *ahem*
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11/30/2008 9:05:52 PM
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Kim Heller
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Next time, Nate :) Atlanta is calling me...... :)
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11/30/2008 10:01:41 PM
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REPTILEN1NJA
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yea im prob still going to go i wanna see all the venomous snakes there but i doubt im going to buy anything there
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12/1/2008 1:28:24 AM
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10/4/2010 2:37:36 PM
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dalvers63
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