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Q:
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ball python regurgitate last 2 meals
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In Relation To:
tiger
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my snake hasnt eatin in 6 months the last 2 times he has killed and eaten he regurged the mouse within 48 hrs i have offered him food once a week and nothing i havent changed his envirorment and temps and humidity are right on he has lost about 1/4 of his body weight and his skin is starting to wrinkle havent found a good herp vet her in salem oregon anyone have any suggestion
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Author Comment
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6/27/2009 2:49:25 AM
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idodgem
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also ive had this snake for 4 yrs and have never had him refuse a meal ever always has been a great eater
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Member Comment
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6/27/2009 2:50:05 AM
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FyreFocks
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How is the snake set up? Temps and humidity? How old is it? Sex?
Its possible that the food refusal is the typical BP fast. As for the regurges, maybe you just need to bump the temps more. I would wait 2 weeks before offering food again. Give it time to build up those digestive juices. In the mean time, use those 2 weeks to find a good vet.
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Accepted Answer
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6/27/2009 11:26:38 AM
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ap1fun
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Unfortunatly regurge is a continuing condition. Give him plenty of time (as said, at least 2 weeks) to rebuild digestive enzymes. Try offering a smaller food item than normal so it sits on his stomach better. You're not trying to fatten him back up, just get a good diet regiment back down. Better to have a little in him than none at all. I know some people will inject frozen items with gatoraid because it adds water and nutrition. Bump the temps up a little, temp determines how active they are and the warmer it is the better food is digested. Shoot for low 90s on the hot side.
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Member Comment
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6/27/2009 12:21:17 PM
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FieldTrialTrainer
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Drive to Portland and go see Dan O'Laughlin @ Tulatin Emergency Vet. He is an awesome herp vet
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Assisted Answer
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6/27/2009 8:20:39 PM
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cheryl Todd
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The advice to wait for a couple of weeks before offering food again is a good idea. As for regurge... handling too soon after or right before feeding can sometimes contribute to that and feeding too soon after can cause issues too. The weight loss is a serious concern. I see you have another ball python. Did you get it before, or after the ill snake? Are they in together? As you do not know the sex of either, even being in the same room as a female will "trigger" breeding desire in males. Move the other one to another room (this will also help limit the chances of this spreading if it is contagious. A vet is a must... there are several people on here that have a vet in your area.... please do a blog on vets in the Salem area so they can give you suggestions (the main focus people will have in this question is trying to figure out how to offer help while looking for a vet). Change the source of where you get your food for your snake... it could be something the breeders are doing with their animals that is not sitting well with him/her. If you are feeding mice, you need to move up to weanling rats or even fuzzies would work. He/she will get more nutrition from them than mice and may digest easier (he should also retain more of the protein if he regurges again). Snakes can go a long time without eating, but since your guy has lost so much weight (an exact amount would be better than estimating) I recommend you get a scale to monitor further loss without having to guess. He/she may have a gastro issue that only a vet can diagnose. Sorry for being so long winded here, but I suffered a huge viral outbreak that took 7 of my animals and cannot express the importance of separating sick and healthy animals as soon as you discover something is wrong. Try to limit handling him/her until he/she is eating and holding food down. Good luck and please let me know if you need anything further and how he/she is doing.
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Member Comment
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6/27/2009 9:02:25 PM
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Author Comment
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6/28/2009 1:25:04 AM
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idodgem
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my snakes are together and have been since i got tiger so for 4 yrs at least my big ball (spot ) is fat a very healthy looking nice and shiny eats with no problems ive moved tiger to a different tank and moved him to a different room now to get the temps right again
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Member Comment
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6/28/2009 1:43:24 AM
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cheryl Todd
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I am thinking you have a male (Tiger) and female (Spot) and the female reached sexual maturity. It would explain the weight loss and refusal of food for 6 months (some males will fast for a year). It is possible Tiger is regurging from the stress of mating. Separating them was a good choice. I would get them both sexed as soon as possible to prepare for the possibility of eggs and piece of mind that your fella will be ok. Lots of reptile enthusiasts are capable of probing for you. It is relatively easy and if done correctly, very accurate. I had 2 females in together and one began to act the same way. It turned out one was a male and I ended up with 5 beautiful babies. Despite how difficult it is for some balls to mate, mine did it with no effort on my part. I think that since both have been together for a long time, the chances of it being a virus or other infection are very small. Please don't hesitate to let me know if you want/need a friendly hand.
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Member Comment
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6/28/2009 11:33:08 AM
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Hannebuddika
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If you are worried about dehydration we have done the gatorade thing for our baby balls and they have suffered no ill effects. We have injected food with it and added it to a water dish while soaking them.
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Assisted Answer
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6/29/2009 2:19:09 PM
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shellboa
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Another good place is Murray Hill Veterinary heres a link...http://www.murrayhillvethospital.com/ great people there. Unfortunately I don't know of any good vets in Salem. O'laughlin is great but he IS only a night time option and he will eventually send you elsewhere because he does emergency only. Dr. Burgess in beaverton is ok but very old-school and not big on educating folks "nicely"
Sounds like your ball might have a parasite issue and a fecal test is always a good idea when dealing with a regurge. Offer fresh water often and don't try to feed him/her for a while. Get a fecal done asap and keeping them seperated is a great idea.
Good luck with your snake and I hope it's nothing serious.
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Author Comment
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7/4/2009 2:48:48 AM
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idodgem
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UPDATE STILL NEED YOUR HELP!! tiger has a meal stuck that is why he is regurgitated. had exray done and now we know why but he is too weak for a surgury. vet doesnt really know what to do.. he wants me to puree a mouse or rat and tube feed him with water hoping to loosen him up to pass the blockage. does anyone know if this will work or is my snake doomed! i tube fed him some warm water tonight just trying to rehydrate him a little it seemed to perk him up a bit..
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Member Comment
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10/25/2009 9:21:40 PM
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zachrfields
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What are your temps? You should give them much smaller meals. Also it would really help to get some benebac. Benebac is a beneficial bacteria that aids in digestion. Just use a little in the water bowl. I had a rainbow boa that had regurged 3 times, now because of small meals and benebac it is fine and hasnt regurged in almost a year. Its very important to keep it at least 86 degrees f for your ball python with the basking spot getting up to about 100, it should have a cooler side also around 80 .
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Member Comment
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1/17/2011 12:21:43 PM
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abi21491
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