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8/26/2009 7:12:25 PM
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make sure you have enough space - an ig that size (who will probably keep growing) is going to need a 4ft x 3ft x 6ft cage, minimum. Tile for substrate is much better since he will lick everything to see if it is edible. If not tile, then newspaper.
From your description, he's going to be WAY too big for an aquarium. Don't forget he'll need fresh food every day (making iguana salad was one of my favorite things, years ago), lots of water to soak and hopefully poop in, plus a basking spot of 95F or so. I'd suggest spending the money for a MegaRay self-ballasted mercury vapor bulb - that way you'll get heat and UVB in the same bulb.
Taking in a big ig is a huge committment. This is one of the reasons that our Adoption program does NOT take them
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8/26/2009 7:14:35 PM
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One more thing - their sense of urgency in NO WAY is your problem. They got this animal and now that it's too big, they want to dump it on someone else. Just because they can't keep it does not mean someone else has to be stuck with it (unless you're really prepared and set up to care for a large lizard).
Iguanas can be a horrid pain in the ass - and they can also be very rewarding. Just make sure you REALLY want one before taking this guy in cause placing him somewhere else will not be easy.
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8/26/2009 7:53:30 PM
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Please tell me you're not planning on keeping the ball pythons in with the iguana? I'm not sure if I read that correctly, and I really hope not.
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8/26/2009 8:28:58 PM
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8/26/2009 9:19:41 PM
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It sounds to me that if you're asking about what an appropriate substrate would be, and what to expect from this animal, that you are in no way, shape, or form ready to take on the commitment and responsibility of caring for a growing iguana. I don't intend to sound mean, I'm just stating the truth. dalvers63 is correct...our adoptions program doesn't take igs any more because they require space, time and devotion and we just can't find suitable homes for them, resulting in foster keepers being "stuck" with these animals. Do you even know the sex of this ig? Because males, once they reach sexual maturity, can become quite the handful, from what I've heard...violent even. I would spend months doing serious research, and talking to more than a few different ig owners, before ever making the decision to bring one into my home. I seriously suggest that you do the same. Deb is right, these peoples' urgency is totally not your problem...you have every right in the world to say no. Granted, it's sad to see yet another ig owner realize they've bit off way more than they can chew and are now looking to unload this burden onto someone else, but do you really want to turn into that person? Again, not trying to be mean or overly judgmental, just trying to relay the hard facts about impulsive iguana ownership.
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8/26/2009 9:29:44 PM
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Be prepared for it to be large and feisty. If it's too big for them to take care of, there's a fair chance it's too big for them to handle as much as they should. Do all the research you possibly can before you take this on. There's slim to no chance these people have any real deadline to get it out of their house.
If you do decide to go through with this... Find out if they have any sort of "time limit" (not likely!), if it comes with anything (logically, they should send it with its current enclosure, etc), and exactly how big it is (even if you have to drive over and look for yourself). If their set-up isn't absolutely "perfect", get the proper stuff ahead of time. Craigslist is good for this. Also, stock up on greens.
Make sure the lizard is healthy before you take it in.. You wouldn't want it to spread any nasties to your snakes. For that matter, you should keep it in a completely separate room and practice strict quarantine for at least a few months before you let it or its enclosure anywhere near your snakes and snakes' enclosures (and vice versa). Come to think of it, just be prepared for vet bills. Even if you can't see anything wrong with it, it could very well have anything from an RI or mouth rot to MBD without you noticing.
Hope this helps some. =)
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8/26/2009 10:07:59 PM
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I agree with everyone. I am the worst spontanius buyer and adopter, but when it comes to Ig's i take a step back. Don't get me wrong, i love ig's and do want one but i just don't have the room, and resources an ig properly needs. The first reptile book i ever bought was IGUANA'S FOR IDIOTS, and wow it was huge!!!! If you can handle it girl go for it. Oh yeah... My respects to you for the rescue!
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8/27/2009 4:58:48 AM
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Once upon a time, I took in an iguana. A supposedly "healthy" iguana. Before even leaving the parking lot after picking her up, I was in tears and we were on our way to the emergency vet. She had a broken nose, both front legs so broken and so swollen she couldn't grip with her hands, which were sporting toenails so long I didn't know if they'd EVER been clipped. One eye was completely swollen shut with pus, and she would take these huge gasping breaths that bubbled pus and mucus. The initial vet bills were over $1000, and that was AFTER the vet cut our bill nearly in half after she yelled at us before realizing we'd JUST picked the iguana up and weren't the ones who'd abused it so horribly.
Intramuscular injections for six months, pulling mucus and pus out of her mouth and treating her septic throat and gums topically, coaxing her back into eating, and then dealing with the severe metabolic bone disease... Her nose eventually fell off. She could stick her tongue out without opening her mouth. She recovered, which is amazing for an eleven year old iguana, and she lived four more years with us before she died of old age. She was so sweet you could give her injections and clip her toenails without restraining her. I loved that lizard.
I will never have another iguana. The responsibility and dedication is insane. Just make sure you know what you're getting into even if the iggy IS healthy. Ignoring the several thousand dollars worth of vet bills and medicine, her set-up alone cost us well over a grand, not to mention the constant iggy salads. I'm not saying you can't do it, you might be the best iguana owner ever, but it's important to know that the horror stories you hear are not urban-legends or myths. Iguanas can be one of THE most difficult animals to keep.
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8/27/2009 7:54:54 AM
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I can only agree with what everyone else has said---Iguanas are tough. They require LARGE housing---a 3 foot iguana can not go in a fish tank. The require fresh food every day. They have specialized lighting requirements, and the bulbs are not cheap. They can be quite aggressive. I also run a reptile resuce program and I won't take in iguanas---they are impossible to re-home.
I have an iguana and I love him very much. But, they really are poor pets for most people, and certainly not an impulse pet.
Thank you for trying to help this one. If you decide to move forward and want more help, feel free to write to me.
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8/27/2009 8:07:59 AM
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I keep iguanas as well and I agree with everyone else. I wouldn't take the iguana in. If your a newb as you say you are then you won't be able to handle the constent attention and care these animals need. Some times if I miss only one day of handling I have to teach my guy all over again on how to be handled. Bulbs are expensive. They eat a crap ton. You have to give them a huge variety of diffrent foods. Anything from Greens,hard food,gecko diet,fruits raw noodles and the list gose on. Changing the water every day is the pain in my ass. Are you going to be able to build this animal a cage?
Heres some questions to ask yourself...
http://www.greenigsociety.org/credentials.htm
Heres cage pictures
Can you provide for this animal properly even if it's only for a little while?
http://www.greenigsociety.org/habitatexamples.htm
These guys are no snakes. You cant just put food in and change bedding and call it a day. These guys need just as much attention as a puppy. Personaly i'd tell these people sorry but an iguana is out of your ball park. You don't need to be moving your animals around to acomidate this iguana. Just tell them that you pass but point them in the direction of someone who could take it. Point them to a reptile show and see if they can find it a home there.
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8/27/2009 9:05:15 AM
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Another alternative: LLL Reptile has a medium iggy cage on sale for $159.99: http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/-/zoo-med-medium-iguanarium/
And that's just the BEGINNING of the expenses! I'm with everyone else, do TONS of research before you even think about this. An iguana of all things is NOT the kind of pet to jump in to without knowing what to expect! You will end up spending all your time and money taking care of someone else's pet that they dumped on you because they couldn't handle it. Definitely quarantine it FAR FAR AWAY from the rest of your pets, in case it is sick. There's way too many things that could go wrong with this scenario...
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8/27/2009 10:16:00 AM
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I totally agree with everyone on this.
For one thing, a tank is not sufficient for anything but the small baby igs. If you were thinking of using a tank and aspen, then I'd say you're just not ready for that Iggy yet.
My local rescue group that I work with has also stopped taking iguana's becuase we just simply don't have the resources. And yet we take in about ten alligators each year. The iggys are more hassle than the damn gators! We also don't take any iggys to the educational shows, because they just can't be trusted. But we do take gators. That should tell you how much a pain in the ass Iggys are.
If you are interested in helping with rescue work, there may be groups somewhere near you that need help. OR, you could gather some people together to start a local rescue. But I would never do that unless I really had a handful of good committed people to help. It's a LOT of work and heartache.
I applaud your courage and your willingness to help them, but I think it could really turn out bad for you in this case.
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8/27/2009 10:31:24 AM
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dalvers63
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IMO, that Zoo med cage is NOT good for any size iguana. The wire will allow them to get their nails and toes stuck and because it is all screen it will have a terrible time holding heat and humidity. Along with that, it is WAY too small for anything but a very young iguana.
The links to the cages on the Green Iguana Society are great though!
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8/27/2009 10:56:27 AM
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Sylvias
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I would have to agree with Skelegirl specifically... Maybe you can provide a temporary home but I wouldn't suggest planning on giving it a permanent one at this time. I studied for 5 years before I got my iggy and I was still unprepared (obviously theres no book that compares to hands on experience). Also, you have no idea what this iggy is like, how it's been taken care of, what it's been fed. It could have a whole host of medical problems that you won't be able to fix.
If you do decide that you can take this on be ready to spend $20-40 a week on the proper food. Start buying building materials because at it's full length a custom built cage is really the only way to go. Mentally prepare yourself for it's crap....cause it's disgusting lol. and be ready for A LOT of scratches, even if it's tame...and a lot more painful ones if it's not...
I still think the best thing you could do is find someone who has experience to take it. Sometimes reptile specialty stores, zoo's things like that.
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8/27/2009 11:24:49 AM
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dalvers63
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Forget about the zoos and most specialty stores - they don't want them any more than most rescues do. I hear that a lot from people trying to give away large constrictors and iguanas - "The Zoo will take it!". Nope, they don't have the time or space for most of these animals, either. In fact, when people drop off things like that at the zoo, our rescue group gets the call to come and get it. Thankfully we haven't had one of those is quite awhile but they do happen!
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8/27/2009 11:54:39 AM
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Sylvias
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It depends on the area I think. The zoo in my area is still new and adding to it's collection so they are still willing to take in some things, I think they recently acquired a pair of albino burms that way. I also have a guy in may area who would take in any reptile and try to re-home it...when his shop was open at least. He closed down for a while due to family issues but hopefully will open up again soon.
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8/27/2009 1:25:40 PM
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Krestie Kate
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I hope you take all of these comments to heart. Your really not perpared for this animal. I grew up with them and i'm still not prepared. My two cages that I built 2 years ago,that I spent almost $200 each on now have to be replaced be cause of two mistakes I made. I didn't seal it properly and now I have an iriversible wood mite infestation and 2 I didn't put anything on the floor to seal it and the urine and poo has eatten holes in the floor. The cages are rotting and they smell. Now i'm looking into investing over $800 on two new melamine cages. 4ft wide by 2 deep and 6 high. Even this is too small for my iguanas. They both get a ton of outdoor excersise and they run around the house as well. Do you have the extra money to also build an out door cage? They need natural sunlight more than anything. Iguanas are tough but all in all if you have an animal that is very tame,no medical problems,has proper houseing and all the rest of the above they are rewarding animals.
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8/27/2009 2:36:01 PM
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MTDrew
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I never realized iguanas are such hassle, i wanted one as a teen and am glad i didnt get one now.
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8/27/2009 2:45:26 PM
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Krestie Kate
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I wish more people knew what a hassle they can be sometimes. Maybe it would keep them from buying them in the first place but who can resist one of the cheapest pets you can buy at a pet store? Kids see $15 lizard that gets big like a dinosaur and there parents buy it for them. If only they knew....
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8/27/2009 2:51:35 PM
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I had bought a 3 1/2 foot Iguana back about 8 years ago, thinking how tough could it be? After owning that 1, which I ended up selling about a year later, I vowed never again. In fact it's the only pet I have ever sold. I felt horible for it, but I was not ready for that responsibilty back then. A shame I did not know that BEFORE I had gotten him.
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8/27/2009 2:57:58 PM
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MTDrew
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if they are so cheap and such hassle i dont see the pet stores angles; unless they can get them for pennies, but all they are getting is a headache when the parents try to bring them back.
i gotta admit i wanted one cause it was cheap and looks wicked, again i was young, dumb, and full of hormones, im gonna ask some pet stores next time i see one, gonna act like a newb and see what they say, i want to know the angles.
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8/27/2009 3:23:25 PM
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Krestie Kate
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The angle is that there bright,cheap and look like dinosaurs. Everyone wants a dinosaur when there younger. I listen to pet stores tell people all the time that they only get 4 ft big and are happy in a 55-75 gallon tank. They eat lettace and hard food and are happy with one heat lamp. They never mention UVB lights untill it's too late for the animal because who wants to bap for a $26 light bulb after buying all the other supplies? They always wanna kick my ass after I but in and tell them all the real info. They usualy won't make a sale after that.
As for Iashia....
Heres an example of the food variety you need to feed an iguana. Today my guys got
green beans
steamed carrots
collard greens
dandelion greens
crested gecko diet
and broccoli as a treat
Fruit dish
red apple
and a dish of hard food.
All that will be gone by the end of the day. For those of you that turned your head at the crested gecko diet. If you read the package it is suggested to give to iguanids. Gecko diet is basicly rotting fruit. My guys love it as the dressing for there salad. It's also great to put medication in. I mix the powder with there hard food and the pre mix on the salad.
Heres a link for the diffrent food to be given to an iguana.
http://www.greenigsociety.org/foodchart.htm
They eat hundreds of diffrent things in the wild so they need a huge variety. My guys have diffrent meals planned out for diffrent days of the week. Some things I grow myself such as the Hibiscus
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8/27/2009 3:24:13 PM
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Sylvias
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The pet stores don't care about the iguanas health, and by the time it gets to be a worry to the parents it's a year or so later and no point in even trying to bring it back to the store. I got my iggy when I was 16, and even though you are supposed to be 18 to buy live animals they sold it to me anyways without even asking about my age or parents. Now I wasn't the usual uninformed buyer but that shows that they really don't care.
I did take really good care of my iguana, he was very healthy, growing like a weed and slowly getting acclimated to handling and socializing, I believe that, were it not for my mother- I would have been able to provide the proper care and home for him into his adult life, but certain reptile hating outside factors ruined that and I gave him away to a friend who already had a few....
This brings up another point...I don't know if you are living with anyone but if you are they need to support or at least tolerate your reptile addiction in order to keep a lizard that big and time consuming...
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8/27/2009 3:25:15 PM
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JohnJohn
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Fortunately, many of the large chain stores like PetSmart have stopped selling green iguanas. I haven't seen one in a store in a while.
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8/27/2009 3:27:09 PM
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Sylvias
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Wow I never tried CGD For igs, Maybe in the future when i move out and get another one I will add that to my "iguana salad"
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8/27/2009 3:39:32 PM
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Krestie Kate
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You can buy all kinds of diffrent flavors of Gecko diet. (it's only gecko diet now because it's formula has been broadend to fit the diet needs of all fruit eatting geckos) I get Rose flavored GD for all of my animals.
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8/27/2009 3:41:18 PM
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Sylvias
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I've never seen flavors o.o I just see the repashy crested gecko diet that i have been getting for a year
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8/27/2009 3:44:13 PM
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Krestie Kate
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try pangeareptile.com the flavors for the base formula is rose. then you can buy the two part diet where you can get many diffrent flavors. Lets try and get back on topic...
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8/28/2009 12:32:00 AM
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Yea. I wouldn't recommend taking this guy in. Iggies are no joke, are often aggressive, need tons of space, have very specific dietary needs... Did I mention they are no joke? I would refer this person to someone who has the space and knows a bit about iguanas... And if that isn't possible, I would take it in but DEFINITELY find it a new home immediately. Even if that meant shipping it to someone for free + the shipping cost. You have a big heart, but iguanas are tough. Not only that, I knew a friend who got bit on the face by one and she ended up with a big scar and 30+ stitches. Ouch.
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8/28/2009 8:07:29 AM
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sonja
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As Sylias brought up, even a tame iggy can hurt you----my tame iggy sometimes makes my arms look like I have a cutting problem from the scratches--and I clip his nails. I have a few permantent scars. I am not making light of the "cutting" look---I have had people wonder if I am OK. Also, during a educational program for girl scouts one time I had a juvenile iggy wiggling around trying to get down accidentally hit me in the eye with his tail. It hurt like crazy and that was just a wiggly iggy, not one who was intentionally trying to tail whip me like a big aggressive male.
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8/28/2009 9:47:33 AM
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Krestie Kate
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Lets not get into a 3 1/2 foot iguana whos pissed tail whipping you in the face. Mine actualy loosened my frount tooth. Now I have to wear a retainer on the top of my mouth untill my tooth learns how to stay there again. I'm about done wearing it now but ouch. I was hit by my friendly one too.
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8/28/2009 10:49:36 AM
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vonnick52
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All these wonderful stories about iguanas, I can't imagine why there isn't one in every household.
Really pisses you off about most pet stores and their total lack of discretion and educating customers.
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8/28/2009 1:31:54 PM
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8/28/2009 1:35:42 PM
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I've never had much of an interest in iguanas because of all the issues cited above. Just to pile on and add one more story, though, a friend of mine who is a vet (but doesn't deal with herps) just recently got a call from an iguana owner who wanted her to come over and "put down" the iguana. Apparently the iguana is so aggressive, the owner doesn't even want to go near it anymore. Very sad.
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8/28/2009 1:45:53 PM
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JohnJohn
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Ed,
Maybe you should take that iguana and give it a home. You have a nice green lawn for it to walk in! :)
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8/28/2009 3:14:06 PM
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Allysen
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I used to work at Petco and must've talked a dozen people out of buying an iguana. But for every person I talked OUT of iguanas when I was on the floor, I'd see like, five people walking out with their little PAIR of dinosaur babies and their twenty gallon tank, one clamp-lamp with a red bulb. It was awful. They pushed the iguanas very hard because they thought they could sell big fancy enclosures and lots of accessories along with them, but when the buyer started to back out because it was getting to be too much, then they started in with "Oh BUT you COULD get away with..." hence the subpar set-ups.
Iashia, please understand that we're not trying to bully you or anything like that. We're generally concerned for your well-being and just need you to understand what a wicked-tough ride an iguana will usually give you. But I understand, if there was an iguana in need around here, I'd most likely take it, turn right around and take the extra steps that the original owner wouldn't and find the best darn iguana rescue or sanctuary possible.
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8/28/2009 3:17:09 PM
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iashia
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well, unfortunatly, after all of these horror stories, i already have it. but right now, i dont need to be scorned or ridiculed. i need to know what to do. chances are, i wont be able to take care of it. i know a few people who might want it. ive had it less than 24 hours right now
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8/28/2009 4:33:07 PM
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natsamjosh
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"Maybe you should take that iguana and give it a home. You have a nice green lawn for it to walk in! :)"
Hmmm, if it only eats weeds, that might be the perfect solution. My lawn will be weed free and my snakes won't be *poisonous*.
If it eats any of the grass, though, it will be Indigo food very quickly.... :)
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8/28/2009 5:43:35 PM
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dalvers63
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What you need to do has been pretty well explained above. Get it a proper cage and lighting.
Start feeding proper food. Take it to a vet if needed.
You're probably looking ata couple hundred dollars to get properly set up. Other than that there isn't much more info anyone can provide.
What shape is the ig in?
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8/28/2009 5:49:50 PM
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Skelegirl
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iashia - please don't think that anyone is scorning or ridiculing you...we were trying to help, even if it seemed harsh. Iguana care is not to be taken lightly. Here you go...The Green Iguana Society: http://www.greenigsociety.org/. They even have a message forum! Hope that helps a bit... I don't know anything about them, just found them from a quick Google search. Hopefully you can get some good information there.
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8/28/2009 5:55:05 PM
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hupababy83
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Its your call Iashia, do what you ahve to sweetheart. I'm rooting for you!
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8/28/2009 5:57:25 PM
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Krestie Kate
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Sense you have him...
Keep him on newspaper or eco-earth bedding. Never aspen or repti-bark.
Igunanas eat everything that comes in contact with there mouths.
Do you have a large dog crate? A dog crate would be more apropriate than an aquarium. Be prepared for escapes. They can get out of anything if they want to.
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8/28/2009 5:59:22 PM
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Floof
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Ashia, I highly doubt anyone here is low or critical enough to scorn you for rescuing an Ig in need. It may not be the smartest thing to do, but it doesn't make you a bad person.. Honestly, I think it's wonderful that you want to give him the best chance--I just hope you won't come to regret it! Good luck with the iggy... You've been given lots of sound advice. =)
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8/28/2009 6:25:20 PM
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Allysen
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You're definitely doing a good thing by getting this guy some help, even if you can't keep him, just getting him to where he needs to go is some of the BEST kharma. I'm hopefully rescuing an umbrella cockatoo soon, and I already know that I don't have the space, time, or resources to take care of him permanently, but I'm just getting him out of the bad situation, keeping him a few days for observation and then figuring out which direction to go from there. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta for the wellbeing of the animal. Let us know how it goes, definitely keep us posted on the him!
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8/28/2009 6:59:51 PM
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Krestie Kate
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Also be clean about this. You don't want this animal getting the rest of your animals sick. Just because he looks healthey dosn't mean he is. You should get a fecal test done on him asap.
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Assisted Answer
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8/28/2009 8:37:57 PM
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bwaffa
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The best green iguana resource I've ever seen: http://www.anapsid.org/iguana/index.html
You're in for a ride... good luck.
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Author Comment
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8/29/2009 2:20:35 AM
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iashia
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just as an update, i worked really hard today. i had a spare bathroom that was small (like 5 feet wide, 11 feet deep) and made a room for jsut him out of spare things i had like cabnets. the temperature in the room is adequate and he has the uvb and uva lighting set up, fresh water, a bowl of fresh greens and fruits, a large heat pad, and a hide box.
Im not going to keep him, but i think what hes in now is better than him running around my apartment near my snakes. hopefully,he will be gone by next week.
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10/2/2009 2:08:38 AM
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WingedWolfPsion
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I think you're doing a wonderful job, above and beyond what most people would do. I hope you find him a great home--he's very lucky to have you to rescue him!
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1/17/2011 8:04:16 AM
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abi21491
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